Wednesday, October 30, 2024

Dawkins on Religion Again

 

IBest of Richard Dawkins against Religion (youtube.com)

Going to try to answe r Dawkins again without the intemperate rant.  I think that URL above goes to the same video , at least I haope so because capturing URLs is not easy for me.

As usual it all starts out with his claim that faith is belief in something without evidence, and as usual my answer is that it simply isn't so.  I really don't think anyone believes anything without evidene.  It may be bad evidence but you always have some kind of evidence for whatever you accept as true.   Anyway, faith as he is thinking of it comes from Christianity and is of course the strongest concept we use in discussing what we believe.  I sue the term myself as my own psedonum here.  But my believe in the God of the bible and in the teachings of the Bible, and in my dsalvation through the death of Christ on the cross, which I believe in by faith, is all baed on the evidence given by the witnesses in the Bible and the witnesess of the Bible itself as a collection of testimonies attributed to the inspiration of God Himself.  

Why Dawkins doesn't think of witness evidence as evidence I don't know.  I believe in tghe resurrection of Christ becaues it is reported in the Bible by people who claim to be wyweyewitnesses of the life of Jesus, and who report on other witnesses of His life and of His appearing after His death.  All this is evidence whther you think it is good enough evidencde for you or not.   If your cousin told you he syw a bobcat in the woods and narrowly escaped and you never saw a bogcat would you not believe him anyway?   Wouldn't it be a basis for taking it as reality?  

We knw a lotof thigs this way.  but we certainly have to know the revelations of the Bible this way because we have no other way of knowing it.  It's all intin the past and we can never see it ourselves.  Some of ti is outside our normal experience, supernatural , and that askes a lot of us to believe it, but we believe it because we count the witnesses to be trustworthy.   If you don't you don't, I can't help that, but I do and for me the ressurection is very real and my salvation based on it trustworthy.

And I don't have faith in the boiling temperature of water for pete's sake.  I can measure that.  Or any other question that can be dealt with by the method of observation and experience, the scientific method.  Good grief.  

Then we have his remarks on biblical morality as he objects to stoning people for adultery and death for breaking the sabbath without regard to the biblical context which of course escapes him completes.  Laws for the ancient Israelites had a specif purpose of keeping themj separate from the peoples around them and protecting the integrity of the population of God's chosen people.  Christians wer not subject to those laws, they were for the Israelites only.  We ave are subject to eh Ten Commandments because those are universal laws but we are not subject to those given to the Israelites for the purpose of identifying them with the true God.   Since the people wer e prone to wander off into the mindset of the surrounding nations they sometimes had to be brought back harshly.  Bug t askdide from theat adultery threatened the cohesiveness of the group and had to be punished severely.  The Sabbath had farreaching implications concerning the nature of God and His promise of the Messiah to come, breaking the law of respecting the prmomise was a very serious thing, and it isn't that it could be violated inoocently, the death sentence for breaking it was well known so there was no expecuse.    There is also  reelation of the mind of God on these thigns, what He considers to be of great importance, which we too are to take seriously even if we are not under the lolaws as the Israelites were.

I'm not very happy with that paragraph but oh well, on we go.

He goes on to say how he liekes our modern morality, for instance that we are rid of slavery, women are treated as equals with men, we favor gentleness in general and being kind oto animals and so on.   He has zerio idea that this all comes from Christianity.  He thinks it is a secular achievement.   Slavery used to be universal throughout the world, may cultures depended on it economically and there was no opposition to it.  To oppose it under those circumstances would have accomplished nothing but the rebellion of the pepole or at least the leaders.  SlAvery couldn't have been effectively opposed until modern times and when it finally was it came from Christianity.  The west was finally freed sfrom slavery but it still remains entrenched in the rest of the world.  It is a Christian achievmenet and Dawkins is completely wrong about history.    Same sith equality for women.  Jesus liberalized relations with women and that became the basis for its eventual accewptance in modern times.  Again only in the west.  Same with kindness to animals and kindness in generl.  All from Christ.  

He aparently thinks that secular morality and rational thought somehow exist apart from the Christainity that pervades the west but aththat is his big mistake.  It all derives from Christaintiyh.  Ayaan Hirsi Ali understands this which she touches on beriefly in the previous post.

Then he goes into his hatred of the doctrine of original sin which he considers to be highly immoral and demeaning.    Funny when I first understood it I wa thrilled by it because to my mind it explains all kinds of things in our lives that otherwise don't get exlainsed,  all the suffering and hatred and violence and war and etc etc.   but I take the Bible as revealing universal truths, dawkins takes it as being the wordk of fallible humanity so he thinks we can just do away with it and make up our own morality.    

I'm not at all happy with this post but  it's the best I can do right now.  I think I'll end it by saying that I think Richarc d Dawkins needs to engage in some empirical science to get a better nderstanding of what is really going on with religion.  If for instance he learned something about how Chrsitain children perform in science I'm sure he'd be forced to admit that there is no difference in how they perform than unbelieving children, that includeds strictly homeschooled Christain chidlren.  They are taught the scientific method like weveryone else.

the only difference is that evolution is not science in that scense, it is hosistorical science that can't have the absolute certainty we get from the hard sciences.   they don't even have witness evidence for their supposed facts concerning the change from ne species to another, ti's all speculative, all conjecture and thee evidence as I've tbeen trying to show in many recent posts is just not there at all.  

but now I'm going to end this very unsatisfactory post.  


Later .  I have to add here that I just went back and listened to some of the Ayaan Hisrsi Ali interview and want to emphasize that I think it's an extremely good discussion about how the west and all our institutions and philosophies are shot through with Christain principles.  They refer to a gook by Tom Hallond I'm not familiar with but apparently he developes this theem and I'd like to be able to read it.  But the discussion alone is very good and I want to promote it for anyone who is interested.

GoGoing Down Under the Avalanche of Lies, or Will God Have Mercy on Us

 The entire Harris side of the election is built on lies, absolutely every word of it.  It's staggering.  How do they live with themselves.  And lies could win the elecrtion and plunge the nation into a dark ages most naive Americans have no way of imagining.

I don't think most Democrats or liberals could really be in favor of what their party actually stands for but if all they are hearing is lies they may well be deceived into voting for them anyway, and that is the big problem we have now.  How to get the truth to the liberals.  There seems to be no way to do that.  They are in the habit of trusting the usual sources and won't even think of checking out sources that might oppose them.  I ran into this recently with two liberals who were trying to convince me that Google wouldn't have intentionally interfered with my blog because I'm a conservative as i told them, no they have must simpler explanations, inocent explanations for why I'm having the problems I'm having.  The kind of problems one has in the old ckind of America swhere as a general rule we could trust both sides to be basically honest.  That is not the case any more and they have no idea that it isn't.  I certainly can't persuade them otherwise, they have a mountain of information they trust on their side.  That it is misinformation isn't cgoing to occur to them without many encounters with evidence and that isn't going to happen because they don't expose themselves to it.   They are convinced the misinformation is on the other side so why should they spend any time investigating it?

So it's up to God.  Well it isn anyway.  Will He have mercyh on us or not?  Does He want America to go down now?  Or will He give us another chance?


Have mercy on us, Lord.

Monday, October 28, 2024

Ayaan Hirsi Ali



This is after her conversion to Christianity and she is ver clear that the benefits of western civilication are all due to Christian influence.


Sunday, October 27, 2024

Bret Weinstein and Brandon Strat

\\\\Leave No ALeave No American Behind: Brandon Straka on DarkHorse (youtube.com)maricon Behind: Brandon Straka on DarkHorse (youtube.com)


Leave No American Behind: Brandon Straka on DarkHorse (youtube.com)


Trying to et the right URL I got the three above and I'll have to try to sort them out carefully sometime.  At least one of them goes to the middle of the video, I don't know if any go to the starting point of the video.  

Anyway.  Brandon Strat is the founder of the Walkaway movement which consists of people who feel disenfranchised by the Democratic Paty and left it, although they don't all nevcessarily to to the same place.  Strat himself has pretty much joined Trump but seems to have some rservations about that too.

Bret Weistein has done his own alking away but I find him less easy to understand or agree with than Strat.  He's still too much of a liberal for me, his reasoning just comes from some other place than minde andit's hard to get into his.  

He still doesn't get MAGA meaning the last A because his focus is all on how America has failed with racial issues.  Strat says he doesn't see it that way but as getting back to a time when Ameria was prospecerous and enjoyhing our liberties or something like that.  I'd agree with that but when I think of being great again I thik mostly of the Greatest Generation, the fact that Amerida has always been a generous good force in the world, helping our enemies rebuild after war being part of that.  That's the kind of greateness I'd like ot see us get back to , but also the propsperity and especially the times when we felt safe and trusting of our neighbors and left our doors unlocked.  That America is long gone since the Left took over.

And Weistein doesn't swant Strat to identify the Left as the prolblem but I agree with Strata and hoepe he doesn't change his mind about that.  I get bBret's problem that he still identifies with that word but to my mind the Left just now has come to stand for all the bad stuff.  If he wants to hold onto Liberal I can handle that one, but no, Left belongs to the stuff i want to get rid of.  

It's always good to have da discussion about these things anyway and maybe Bret's views will start making more sense to me if I hear more of them.

Just a Little Rant Against dawkins and the other antireligionists, and against the Left

I am cancelling this post because I was way too intemperate.  And 


And I spologize to Mr. dawkins for my insulting remarks.


IBest of Richard Dawkins against Religion (youtube.com)


Authenticity and Believability

 The idea that we must believe something in order to be saved, which is taught in the Bible, doesn't sit well at all with the atheists out there.   There is something suspicious about the idea of belief or fatih to them.  Dawkins is always saying that faith simply means belieivng something for which there is no evidence.  I keep answering that no, the evidence is there and it is witness evicdence, which iis the only kiind of evidence you can have for something that occurered only onece which you weremn't there to see for yourself.  Jesus Himself is to be known only by faith because it is impossible for anyone to meet Hims today.  All the events and peroplld ofthe Bible are knowlable only by faith.  

And they are knowlable.  That word is appropriate enough.  Wek know many things by witnesse evidence alone that we can't witness ourselves.  Most of our knowledge ois of this kind.   But when it comes to the supernatural claims of the bible in particular, that's where they get all fidgety and annoyed and try to dismiss it all as fiction because there is no way for any of us to witness it now.  

But th whole thing from Genesis to Revelation is kowlable only by faith.  All the people are dead and all the events are in the past.  All we hae is the words of the people in the bible that any of it happened, or the bible itself presenting them as real.  So of course they have to bring the Bible into doubt and disrepute if they simply cannot entertain the idea of a miracle for half a second.  


That way of course they stand no chance of ever believing in Miracles unless God grants them one of their very onewn and tchances are they won't believe that weither beause they can always interpret it out of existence as a miracle, or ir not always then certainly most of the time, by doubting their own perceptions, suppossing it to have been a neuropsycholgoial experience rather than real and that sort of thing.

Futile it  for John to write his gospel with the aim of giving evidence "that you may believe" since they will doubt the very existence of John among other things.  Who is this John anyway?  

There really isn't any point in trying to discuss these thins with someone who discounts any or all of it as possibly fictional because there really isn't any way to prove that it's not.  It's a matter of judgment.  You either have an ear for the truth or you don't.  Fallen  humanity is born into this world, acording to Christian understanding, lacking the faculty of spiritual discernment, it having been lost at the Fall when our fistrst parrents disoveyed God.  We are all born dead in that way, unable to know God.  We may or may not logically decide that a God must exist but there is nothing in our nature to require it of us.  to actually discern God requires the regeneration of the faculty of the spirit in our natures, requires, in orther words, being born again.    Without that we are confined to what we can know through our senses and that keeps us tethered to the physicla universite.  this is why science deals only with the material world and why it is so common for people to seek physicalistic interpretations for spiritual things.  Such as to say that it must be neuropsychological.  everything is physical to the fallen mind.  It all originates in phsycial reality.  that is the basis of evolutionary theory too of course.  It all started with something physical happening in the primordial ooze, some coming together of atoms and molecules, an evlution itself is of coruse all a matter of physical beings making more physical beings, and thn in the end when they have to try to account for consciousness all they have is the physical and that's when we get all the fanciful notions about how it could arise from the physical.    In sohort, again, it's all because the human rce is fallen.  Fallenness is being relegated to the physical realm.

"The They are but flesh"  God says I think in Genesis five or six, therefore He will not always strive with us.  After the Fall we becmae "but flesh" unable to relate teo Him because He is Spirit.    I think it was Watchman Nee who pointed out in something I read recently, or maybe it was Andrew Murray, that we are the only creature with the tripartite nature of body, soul and spirit.  the animals have a body and a soul but not the spirit withich communicates with god.  the angels and demons are pure spirit.  But we are this unusual combination of matter and spirit.  Or we were originally since at the Fall we lost the spirit, or it fell into a corrupted state, not sure hjow to think about that.  It's "dead" however, acording to sciprture, and needs to be "quickened" by the new birth for us to be saved.  Being saved is first o all being regenerated in our psirits so that we can apprehend god.  We have to grow into it after being merely born into it again and that thakes time but it is in fact renewed in us and is the foundation of our salvation.  We receive the Holy Spirit through this rebirth.

that is mre or less a side trip here though probably necessary.  I mostly wanted to get into the futility of trying to confince a fallen person about the things of the spirit, to confince him or her about the truth of the Bible for istnace or the need for salvation.  I know that God must do that work and that is because we can't, mere persuasion isn't going to accomplish anything you must be born again.  yet they must hear it in order to be in a position to be born again.  there's that too.

Most of the debates on these subjects I hear lately are frustrating because they are usually trying to compromise something to make the truth more accessibly to the fallen mind.   TIt doesn' work but it continues anyway.  Far better in my opinion just to state the flat facts as the bible presents them no matter how unpalatable to the fallen ear and leave it to God to sort it out.  


There are parts of the discussion that do seem to be more or less amenable to simple locial arguent such as that it seems to me that the Biblcial presentation doesn't read like fiction to me at all or to other believers.  Still the fallen mind will turn it into fiction even though it has none of the marks of fiction just beuase the content doesn't fit into their worldview.  So even that little bit of argument doesn't go anywheresjere either.


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I keep frgetting to add my new email address that is managed by my daughter:  

faithswindow@mail.com



Saturday, October 26, 2024

Ham n Nye Debate Continued: evidence for the Flood etc.

 Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham - HD (Official) (youtube.com)

ye is saying that there isn't any evidence for th Flood.  Well, tht's because they've coopted it to eovolution.  the strata and the fossils are teh main evidence for the Flood.  The strata are separate homogeneous layers of sediments, a sandstone here a limestone there a shale elsewhere and so on, all homogeneously a single sediment or single material of some sort such as conglormerate.  Here and there.  But mostly sedimetns such as sand and limestone.    this fact of stacked layers of sediments fits with what water does, in deltas, at the shoreline etc.  It has been demonstrated in the laboratory to occur in studies of fast moving wqater.  It would have taken a n enormous amount of water to produce the enormously huge layers of sedimentary rocks that span many thousands of square miles, covering conteintens, and reaching highests in some cases of hundreds of feet.    Fits a worldwide Flood very well.

and of course the enormous number of dead things ofossilized sithin those sediments fits with the biblical reason given for the Flood, to kill all things living on the land, except for the few saved on the ark.  Besides land creatures of course a great humber of sea creatures also died but all the land creatures died while not all the sea creatures did.  

thas prestty good evience for the Flood.  And when the evidence is appreciated that these layers are undisturbed by normal tumults seen on the surface of the earth all the time, not occurring within the layers but only after they wer all laid down, that adds to the evidence picture of a short period of time for their laying down rather than even years let alone millions of years.  They are also tabletop flat in their original horizontal position with razor edge sharp contact between the layers, which doesn't fit any slow processes of deposition we'd expect to see on the survfa e of the earth or at the bottom of the ocean.  

'All that is pretty solid evidence for a worldwide Flood.  and I'd also mention that the surface of the earth looks repretty tubmbled and swirled and tossed around which would also fit the Flood.  

thenmeone askes the question how they reckon the timing of the drifting apart of the continents, and Ham says that Baumgartner hs studied that and that they generally see it as having started with the Flood breaking things up, which I'm glad to know because I came to that conclusion on my own as well.  I think of it as occurring at the very end of the Flood and I did my own calculations about how fast it would have .... start over, how fast the continents would ahve started out drifitn g aapart because I figure they started out fast and slowed down over the last four millennia to their present rate.  I can't read Baumgarten but I'm now interested to know what conclusion he came to anout all that.


Correction:  He said Dr. Snelling as well as Dr. Baumgartner studied the tectonic plate movement

Propaganda takes Down Even Some of the Best

 Glenn Loury seems to have read the nw book by this guy Coates, sorry I hear his name but it's too much of a blur for me to attempt to write it out, anyway he read it and was convinced by it that there is an apartheid ituation in Israel against the Palestinians and a basic injustice on th part of Israel against those people.  This disburbs me in sutrn because everything I've heard puts the cause of the problems there squarely in the hands of the radical Islamists like Hamas and Hezbollah and clearly Coastes didn't take any of that into account but just repeated their own propaganda and apparently Loury accepted what he said at face value.

Over and over I hear how Hamas steals the food and other aid sent to help the Palestinian people in harm's way during this war is stolen and throw out by their leaders, by Hamas so tht the people go on strarving and suffering even when tone and tones of help is sent to them.  And they pblame it on israel which has nothing to do with it except to try their best to help the people get what they need.   Israel in fact is said over and over again to go to great extremes to proect the people from even their own attacks on Hamas, by making sure they are warned loudly and clearly of a particular raid they are planning so that they can escape the area.  No other army does such things but Israel doeass.   

as uses their own people as human shields, they won't let them get away.  they set up their aresenals and headquarters in putlib places especially schools and hosptials where the most damage to the public could be done by Israel trying to target the leaders.  So that if they do attack and some get killed it can be blames on Iaszrael and the Palestinians will aleways be the victims of Israel instead of Hamas.   All fo the sake of propaganda against Israel.  Hamas doesn't care one bit about their own people.  they also routinely toss out figures of how many sewere supposedly killed in this or that operation by Israel as if it could all be counted within an hour of the event.    

So Iraeldios their best to protect the people, to facilitate their protection, an aim only at the leadership.  They may take out dozens of Hamas leaders and that too will be called civilican victims of Israel.    

As for apartheid the Arab population within Israel proper has all the rights of any citizen. and if they keep to themselves which some do it is their own choice based on their own culturue and religion, it is not because of Isaraeli decisions.  

Thisi what I har all the time.  But Loury seems to beleive Coates instead.  

zWe liv in a time of lies and propaganda running everythign in the world, and it's the good guys who are made the bad guys and the bad guys the good guys, good for evil and evil for good.   that's what is going on in our election right now.  Perhaps it would help if some of the liars got a tiny inkling that lying and plotting harm against teh innocent is not overlooked by god and that there will be justice against them in favor of their victims in the end.


zAfter listening back to this post once again I'm aware that ther is someone else or something else that is tampering whith what I write.  I'm well aware of my own mistakes and I'm alwaso aware of making a special effort to get some words writght ubut the y are nevertheless altered in the final result.     Speaking of targeiting innocnets.  i'm a single elderly woman being targeted by who knownss what.

Friday, October 25, 2024

can't Stop Sketching Out that List of Evidences, Just Keep Going with it. Oh Well.

I need a new blog.  Or help with this one.  Or no, really what I need is a new set of eyes.  I've asked the Lord for that, and the nineteenth century South african pator Andrew Murray says the redeemed should expect to receive healings as part of our salvation but we have to have the faith for it and I don't.  I suppose that is the reason anyway, but maybe I could build up more faith if I prayed about it.  But then again I never expected to live to this age and I don't kow why I'm still here.  I don't seem to have anything I'm called to do expect write my blog.  

I could probably just dither myself to death about such things.  

I thinkthe arguments I've collectd against evolution are enough to kill the monster dead but if I can'yt make the arguments clear to people I'm just flailing around unselessly.    Yes I could dither myself to death this way.

they really  do think that the changes we see in every species from generation to dgeneration are evidence of evolution.  I don't know how they can ohold onto that idea knowing what we know about how the genetic processes work but apapretly the simple fact that the phenotype or creature itself is seen to vary is enough for evidence for them.    Dawkins didn't build in any form of restraint to his little figure that rolls from change to change and supposedly proves evolution.  Coyne said the difference between the wolf and the chihuahua is proof of evolution.  This astonishes me.

Ken Ham of course talks about the Kindsx as the basic forms of living things, each creted separately and unrelated to all the other kinds renetically.  This is the creationist reference point.  As Ham says we don't have to think about the many thousands of species evolutionists identify in the world today as having been on the Ark, since all we need o have on the ark is eighter two or seven of each creature Kind.  All the species we see now would descend from those afger the Flood.  

I think we need to make more of the fact that each Kind has its own genome.   There is a human genome, and a cat genome and a dog genome and I think also a bird genome.  thw  genome defines the Kind and all the species of that Kind come from genetic variations built into the genome, the two alleles per gene and many genes per trait in most cases and so on.  That is enough to make for all the different kinds of cats and dogs and birds and human hbeings.  RThese different species emege in isolation from other populations, wthether through natural selection or just random selection and geographic isolation, whatever brtings about the inbreeding of a particular set of gene frequencies within an isolated population.  That's all it takes.  It's variation not evolution.

ther eis n way to get from any of these evolved species to anything other than another species of the same Kind if there is enough genetic variability left for that after a breed has been well established.  All you can eve get is variations on the traits established by the genome to belong to that AKind and that's all you an ever get.  

Or if they think you can get to another Kind or SPeicies that way they haven't yet demonstrated how they think this is possible.  I've speent a lot of time tring to think that through and enver been able to come up iwth a way it could be possible.  Outside the genome as it were    or maybe that is the wrong way to put it.  You have to change the trait itself not just the variation of tht trait.   

Back at EvC forum I was always being asked how do I define the Kind.  Ham says it seems to be the equivalent of the Family on the Linnaean system.  I don't think that is true for every Kind but for many.  But I'ds want to define it as a shared genome.  You can look at a genome and know whether it belongs to a human being or a dog or a cat, right?  That's one way to define the Kind.   Another way is the body plan.  that hit me a few years ago as I relaized that even the very different looking birds have skeletons that are prettymuch identical, same proportions, same location of appendages etc.  

And body plan doesn't vary, or varies only slightly, through all the manyu vaiaiont so fhte spearate traits that develope the many different breeds of dogs, cats, cattle etc etc.  they all have the same body plan even if they are very different from each other in their general appearnace.  

My main argument at EvC for years was that you get reduced genetic vqaariability when you are getting changes in the appaearance of a population.  It is a trend, so it won't always show up in some obvious way, but it has to happen as getting new forms of a trait means losing the other forms of it.  As you get a particular kind of fur for your bred you are losing all the other kinds.  Eventually as the breed becomes refinesd you can lose ALL the alleles for all the other forms of a trait so that your breed is homozygous for all its salient traits.  That is a very reduced genetic variability.  You need heteroszygosity for variability.  

Body plan and behavior too.  Dogs all act like dogs, all of them they all bark and wag their tails and slobber all over you if they like you and mark their territory in the same way and sniff each other's behinds and all that.  that is the dogness of dogs.  Cats also have their own set of behavior s that identify them as cats.  

So there you have some eaysways of identifying what a Kind is, that creature that was idndepently and uniquely formed at the Creation.

I can't remember if I'm leaving out some other parts of the biological picture that make for evidence against evolution.  

But then there is the geological evidence which is against an Old Earth rather than evolution as such.     If you ponder the physical facts of the layers of sedimentary rock in which the fossils are found it's not hard to realize pretty soon that they couldn't possibly represeent time periods of tens of millions of years which is what we are told .   And I still enjoy Bill Nyr'd trbrlsyion  Bill Nye's revelation that not only is there no fossil from higher levels found in lower levels but the same is true of the fossils in the lower levels.  they don't "swim" up to the higner levels as he put it because he thinks of it as a problem for the Flood.  Rally is t is a problem for evolution as even theyh don't think that when a creature evolved all the creatures that it evolved from just disappear, but that is the way it looks according to Bill Nye.  Oops.  

I'd like to sketch out the whole thing here and hope I'll get back to it but I'm ready for a break at the moment.

Later:  So where as I?

The Kind is defined by its genome which contains the intstructions for that Kind in all its variations and no other Kind.

Whenever a breed or race is being developed, when phenotypes are changing the character of a population, that is always accompanied by a reduction in genetic diversity as the variations that do not fit the new breed or race are eliminated from the population over generations, and means that there is a natural limite to the changes that are possible down any line of so called evolution which is really just ariation.  AThat means that evolutoin is brought to a halt exactlyh where it is asupposed to be particularly about to take off according oto the evolutionist argument.

Then we find that in the so called fossil record fossils lower in the stack of layers do not appear in layers above but if the layers did actually repreesent the time periods of tend of millions of years assigned to them by the theory of evolution all the creatures should persist through all the layers to present time that are now living in our own time on this earth, but according to Bill Nye this is not the case.  We get a fish or sea animal in onwe layer and in the next layer we cget an amphibian and we say the second evolved from the firsrt but we get no more of the sea creature, it stops and onlyh the amphibian continues and only for that layer because in thelnext layer up whatever supposedly evolved form the amphibian is alone there without the ambphibian itself and so on, no reptiles with the mammals, no apes witht e humans and so on.    This is not a picture of how evolution is said to occur so therefore the fossil record is bogus.

then I'd mention the erosion piles at the base of various formations such as the buttes in Monument valley where if they are supposedly millions of years old ovr even many thousands the erosion is way too little for that length of time.  That's an argument for a young yearth instead of the millions or billions of years.\

Then the is the fact that the layers of sediments in which the fossils are found are clearly undisturbed in themselves while the entire stack of layers shows a lot of disturbance.  That couldn't be if they each represent time periods of tens of millions of years.  it is onlyh after they are all in place that we see the usual disturbances this planet is said to experience such as volcanoes and earthquakes and hurricanes and other things that would disturb the surface of the earth or even the sea bottom for that matter.

then there is the fact that if you just look at the layers and think about them you hae to conclude that they couldn't ever have been part of a time period of millions of years or any time period at all.  they are made up of separate sediments which already makes no sense out of the idea that each occupied a particular time period.  They are tabletop flat in their original laying down and that doesn't happen anywhere under normal circumstances of deposition, on the sea floor or on the surface of the earth or even perhaps some depth eneath the surface.  

That do in the idea of time periods of millions of years and leae it open for a young earth.

supernatural versus natural evidence

 I called it an apparition, the ghost as it were of a human being I'd seen earlier that day on the street who had threatened me.  It was threatening me now in its demonic form, the man I'd seen apparently having been demon possessed and the demon appearing in my room that night.  

this happened almost forty years ago and I was telling it to give an example of some experiences I've had theat lead me to believe in the Bible as a supernatural wsork, supernatural experiences being some evidence of that to my mind.  

did I kn hat such things can be neurologically created he wanted to know.  Well sure, that sort of explanation accompanies every discussion of the supernatural with unbelievers.  We always get the physical version of it in response.  So sure I know that but this was an apparition.

How do I know that.  Well I don't know I can't prove it I simply know it the way I know a dream from reality or something like that.  yeah I guess I could be wrong but no this was a real apparition it was not a neurological event.  

I should be open minded he said.  

after forty years of knowing this is an papparition I should be open minded and recondsider that I decided forty years ago is not a neurologial event?  Obviously being open minded in rthis case simply means giving up the idea that it was an apprition and believe it was a neyurological event.  that's the only answer that will be accepted.  

So there is no point in sdiscusing such thigns once you know that the conclusion is determined already.  T

There is no more evidence for the one than the other.

Thursday, October 24, 2024

Dawkins Against Religion continued

 Just to touch on the ususual  he again says that faith is believing something without evidence when in the case of Christianity, no, it is believing on the basis of witness testimony which is evidence.  I believe what the witnesses have told me they wthen he goes on to how faith leads people to commit evil acts


itnessed and in believing that it beomce shemy own knowledge.  and the example he gives is als always from Islam, the suicide bombing and the flying of planes into the twin towers, but he never distinctguishes that from the fact that Christianity does not teach us to do such things, that is something only Islam teaches.  And that is because not all religions are the same although he always acts as if h thingsks they are.  Christians are taught to love others and do good to others, and to put up with persecutions and injustices, turn the other cheek, go the extra mile when compelled to go one and so on.  this is not what Islam teaches at all.  There could not be two more different religions but Dawkins seems not to notice or not to care.


What I was saing in the first paragraph about faith got cut off.  Yes, the things I know by faith are acquired through the testimony of witneesses.  IEither you trust the witnesses or you ton'.  I judge the many witnesses of the Bible to the many dsupernatural and other events to be reliable.  If you don't you dn't.  


Besides that I don't use faith in any context where I can use empirical knowledge or direct observation.  Why shuld I?  Faith is all we hve for the kinds of events given in the bible, but it isn't appropriate in our everyday lives in the same way.  Still of course there are many things we all know only because we've been taught them by others, but that isn't the same thing as believing in the resurrection of Christ for my salvation although in a sense it may be said to be knowing something by fiath nevertheless.  Again it is  a matter of whether you belive the witnesses or not.  Unfortunately there are many people who refuse to beleive the witnesses not because of anyything  they know about their trustworthiness as people but only because they have rejected their testimony in advance.  Say they claim to have witnesses a miracle.  Their testimony will be rejected bwcause it is a miracle they switnessesd, not because they themseles are at fault in any way.  Or the fault is imputed to them as a consequence of the distrust in the miracle.    So nobody woulwcould eevery find out if a miracle really occurred or not who can't consider the validity of the witneesses' testimony at all for prejudice against the thing witneessed. 


Oh well.

Dawkins and the Cry of the Atheist Aginst the true God

 Dawkins on religion: Is religion good or evil? | Head to Head (youtube.com)

The l above is supposed to be the URL to an interview of Richard dawkins on the subject of his hatred for religions, in particular Christianity or the Old testament at least.  Is religion evil he is asked and he says yes.   The main example of this is as usual Islam whicfh certainly does do evil acts since its central aim is to take over the world for Allah and it teaches utter disdain and hatred for all those who do not believe in Allah.

However, Dawkins finds just as much to hate in the Old testament, and even in parts of the New Testament.    

It occurred to me that the most direct, or at least shortest way of answering Dawkins might be to say that what he is criticizing is the Moral Law.  the Moral Law is an inexorable judge of all violations of its tenets.  You can't separate God from His Moral Law in some sense because He must operate according to it and it operates inexorably, therefore so does He when it comes to judging sin.  but there is also a sense in which the Moral Law operates impersonally and automatically, as the Law would, although it is also very subtle which is why god hcan be said to repent or relent fom time to time or change His mind, but all this really means is that the Law is very refined and subtle and language is being used to make it easier for us to understand it by keeping us in touch with the personal God who in some sense embodies it.

I supposesomeone could come along who has studied all this for years and might denounce me as saying something heretical, in which case I'd have to withdraw it and rethink it but this is how it hits me at the moment.  

What the Old Testament does is take us behind the scenes of world events which normally just happen to us without our understanding why.  Why wars happen, why disasters happen, why horrific things happen nd so on.   Violations hae bewen accumulating for generations in a particular people group for instance and hve finally come to the "fullness of time" when punishemnt is going to destroy them.  Then a particular methjod of punishemnet will be seen to be decreed by god, such as perhaps the armies of the Israelites will be employed to punishe a particular tribe of people.  Or later the armies of the Assyrians will be employed by God to punish Israel when they have accumjulated years of 8iviolations themselves.  

the Old testament is to introduce us to the character of god both as judge and in all His other dispositions, but it seems to be His charctger a judge that most captures the attention of the unbelievers like Dawkins who put in so much energy denouncing Him for what they see as His mean and nasty character.  Of course they minimize sin if they take it into account at all.  You wouldn't kill your dog for digging up your flower bed would you?  that level of thought about sin.  

The fear of God is the beiginning of wisdom he are told here and there in scripture, mostly in the book of Proverbs.  This fear is to teach us to recognize that sin brings punishment so that we can learn not to commit sin and therefore preserve our lives and remain in God's good graces.  

We sin anyway even if we have at least some measure of that fear of God, and now we see His merciful and loving sinde as He sends us a redeemer to save us from the consequences of our sins.  First he teaches us that sin brings punishemtns, that the wages of dsin is death, and then He offers us salvation from it.  He cannot lifet the operations of the Moral Law, they are inexorable, but He can save us from their consequences by sending His own sinson to die in our place.    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" He says through the Prophet Hosea, and what He means is that they haven't learned to fear God and obey His law, they commit all the sins He forbade in the Ten Commandments for instance, they lie and steal and covet and murder and commit adultery and terefore they keep being subjected to punishemtns, and God laments this fact, blaming the leaders of isareal for not teaching the Ppeople prophery.  

he gives the Law to Moses and accounces that through this Law He is setting before the people life and death and says they are oto choose life by obeying these laws.  Well over the years through many good and bad kings and true and false prophets the people accumulate eough sins to be sent to babylon for seventy years and for their land to be laid waste by the armies of the Assyrians.  but just as the Prophet Daniel is discovering that the time in babylon is about to expire so that the people may go home, he is also told of the time left before the Savior Messiah is to appear to save the world from sin.  

Perhaps none of this would be of any interest to an unbeliever but I think it's about the best I can do at the moment.

I might also try to deal with the incident of god's calling Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac winc that tis the usjbect of much outgrage by the atheists.  But I think I'll have to leave that for some other time.

Wednesday, October 23, 2024

 Seems I've been underestimating how seriously the evolutionists take the facts of variation within a species to be evolution itself.  I guess I knew it but it's been so clearly shown to be false in my own mind I forget that's what others think.  

So I guess the case has to be made more emphatically and clearly that the genome defines the rules for variation within a species and only that species it belongs to.  

tHE lIST OF eVIDENCES aGAINST eVOLUTION cONTINUED

i FORGOT TO INCLUDE ON THAT LIST THE RATE OF EROTSION OF ROCKS SUCH AS THE BUTTES OF THE mONUMENT vALLEY ND THE WALLS OF THE gRAND cANYON AND OTHER INTERESTING FORMATIONS OF THE sOUTHWEST.  iF THEY ARE DATESD TO TENDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS OR A MILLION OR MORE THAE AMOUNT OF EROSION SEEN COLLECTED AT THE BOTTOM OF ANY OF THESE FORMATIONS IS WAY TOO LITTLE.  tHIS IS JUST A GUESS AND IT SENEED S TO BE TESTED.  iT PROBABLY HAS BEEN BUT i DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIND THE INTERMTIATION.  THAT IS, THE RATE OF EROSION IS PROBABLY KNOWN FOR SOME OF THEM AND THEY'VE BEEN ASSIGNED A STARTING DATE S WELL.  


tHE ARGUMENT THAT WHAT WE SEE ARE SPECIFIC kINDS AS hAM PRESENTS THEM, i THINK NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED AS A PROBLEM OF HOW VARIATION OR EVOLUTION COULD OCCUR OUTSIDE THE GENOME OF A GIVEN kIND OR sPECIES.  aLL THE VARIATION WE SEE, THAT EVOLUTION HAS COOPTED QUITE RONGLY, OCCURS ACCORDING TO THE DESIGN OF THE GENOME, EACH GENE BEING REPRESENTED BY TWO DIFFERENT ALLELES WHICH PRODUCE DIFFERENT RESULTS IN THE CREATURE.  THIS IS BSICALLY THE GENETIC BASIS FOR mENDELIAN VARIATION, ONE ALLELE PRODUCING ONE COLOR OF FLOWER AND THE OTHER A DIFFERENT COLOR FOR INSTANCE.  yOU CAN HAVE HOMOZYGOUS RECESSIVE OR HOMOSZYGOUS DOMINANT OR HETEROZYGOUS VERSIONS OF ANY GIVEN GENE AND IN COMBINATION WITH ALL THE OTHER GENETIC VARIATIONS A GREAT DEAL OF VARIETY IS PRODUCED JUST WITHIN A GIVEN sPECIES OR kIND.  


THIS IS NOT EVOLUTION.  aND WHAT THE EVOLUTIONISTS NEED TO BE CHALLENEGED TO DO IS TO PROVE THAT THEY CAN SHOW HOW ANY KIND OF VARIATION CAN OCCUR WITHOUT BEING LIMITED BY THE DESIGN OF THE GENOME, OR HOW THE GENOME ITSELF CAN BE CHANGED.  THIS THEY'VE NEVER DONE AND i DON'T THINK IT CAN BE DONE.  i THINK ALL VARIATION IS DTERMIEND BYT HE DEISGN OF THE GENOME.


EYOND THAT i'VE ARGUED THAT THE PROCESSES OF EVOLUTION OR VARIATION INVOLVE THE REDUCTION OF GENETIC DIVERSITY WHICH WORKS AGAINST THE WHOLE IDDEA OF EVOLUTION FROM SPECIES TO SPECIES.  aS YOU GET A MORE AND MORE REFINED BREED OF DOG OR ANY OTHER ANIMAL YOU ARE LOSING THE ALLALES FOR TRAITS THAT DON'T BELONG TO THIS BREED AND THAT IS THE ONLY DIFRECTION POSSIBLY AS NEW PHENOTYPES ARE DEVELOPED.  tHIS IS A FORMULA THAT WORKS AGAINST EVOLUTION.


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2h3When you compare the body plan or skelecton of an ape with a human being you have to see that the claimed similarity is really not there.  The proportions are completelyh different.


Apparently the great variation that occurs within a given genome does not occur in the part that determines the body plan.   


There's more to say about all that but I have to mention that I'm still sort of shocked and amused by Bil l Nye's giving me an argument against evolution when he so emphaticlaly said that you absoluteoyly camnot find a fossil from a lower layer showing up in higher layers and that's supposed to be an argument aginst the Flood.  I'd been trying to get a sense for some time of how many of the fossils get carried over into later time periods, and it was a big surprise for him to say absolutely none.  He says it twice too, in his opening statmeent and again in his half hour talk.  this is deadly for evolution since it completley falsifies the fossil record.  If those were really time periods then they should show an accumulation of living things from earlier times as well as the new evolvedld creatures, but apaprently that is not the case.  A According to bill Nye.



cONTINUING bILL nYE AND kEN hAM DEBATE

fINALLY HEARD THE DATE OF THIS EVENT:  2014, TEN YEARS AGO.


iNTERESTING.  nYE THINKS IF THE fLOOD WERE TRUE THAT THERE SHOULD BE EVIDENCE OF GREAT TUMULT IN THE STRATA RATHER THAN THE PLACID FLAT ROCKS THAT ACTUALLY EXIST AND CAN BE SEEN EXPOSED IN THE WALLS OF THE gRAND cANYON.   tHIS IS THE SAME ARGUMENT i'VE BEEN MAKING AGAINST EVOLUTION, THAT IF THESE LAYERS ACTUALLY PERSISTED ON THE EARTH FOR THE MILLIONS OF YEARS ASCRIBED TO THEM THERE SHOULD BE EVIDENCE OF ALL SORTS OF DISTURBANCES SUCH AS EARTHQUAKES AND VOLCANOES WITHIN THEM SINCE THIS IS A VERY ACTIVE PLANET, AND THERE AREN'T ANY.  nO, WE SEE THESE PLACID FLAT FROCKS THAT EXTEND FOR THOUSANDS OF SQUARE MILES.


hE POINTS TO THE VERY FEW PLACES WHERE IT SEEMS THAT A RIVER BED CUTS THROUGH A LAYER AND THAT SORT OF THING BUT THE EXAMPLES ARE RIDICULOUSLY FEW AND THE BETTER EXPLANATION THAN THE EVOLUTIONIST EXPLANATION IS THAT THE THING THAT LOOKS LIKE A RIVERBED WAS WATER ....  CASUSED BY WATER RUNNING BETWEEN THE LAYERS AFTER THEY WERE LAID DOWN.   eSPECIALLY IN LIMESTONE WATER BETWEEN THE LAYERS COULD MAKE CUTS AND HOLES IN THE ROCK.


i WOULD SUPPOSE THAT MANY OF THE LAYERS WER LAID DOWN BY HUGE WAVS FLOWING OVER THE LAND, THOUGH IT'S ALSO A POSSIBILITY THAT THERY WERE PRECIDIPATED OUT DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE fLOOD WHEN THE WATER WAS FAIRLY STILL.   tHESE ARE SPECULATION FOR A FUTURE TIME i THINK, BUT MEANWHILE THE LACK OF ACTIVITY WITHIN THE LAYERS IS FAR MORE OF A PROBLEM FOR THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION BASED ON AN OLD EARTH THAN IT IS FOR THE fLOOD.


THERE IS PLENTY OF TUMULT AND TURMOIL AFTER ALL THE STRATA WERE IN PLACE, WHICH CAN BE SEEN ON THE CROSS SECTION OF THE gRAND sTAIRCASE TO gRAND cANYON AREA i'VE OFTEN MENTIONED.  THAT'S WHEN THE ONLY VOLCANO TO BE SEEN ON THAT DIAGRAM IS SEEN TO HAVE OCCURRED AFTER WARD AS IT PENETRATES FROM THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE STRATA TO THE VETY TOP IN ONE SMOOTH LINE OF MAGMA.  aND THE ENTIRE STACK OF LAYERS IS SHOWN TO HVE BEEN DEFORMED AS A UNIT, SLIGHTLY RAISED UP AND SLOPONG DOWNWARD, THE MOUNDED UP OVER THE UNCONFORMITY AST THE BASED E OF THE GRAND CANYON.  tHE UPPER PART OF THE CROSS SECTION SHOWS ALL THE TUMULT YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM THE RECEDING WATERS OF THE fLOOD AS IT CUT THE CLIFFS THAT MAKE THE STEPS OF THEgRAND sTAIRCASE AND SWEPT AWAY MOST OF THE LAYERS ABOVE THE pERMIAN IN THE gRAND cANYON AREA, AS WELL AS NO DOUBT CUTTING THE CANYON ITSELF , AGAIN AFTER ALL THE LAYERS HAD BEEN LAID DOWN.   aS i'VE ARGUED IN ANOTHER RECENT POST HERE.


nYE RAISES QUESTIONS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC FOR THE fLOOD BUT IT JUST MEANS WE DON'T HVE ANSWERS FOR THEM YET.  tHE MAIN ANSWER IS THAT WE CAN'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE NOBODY WAS THERE AND THINGS WERE VERY DIFFERENT BEFORE THE fLOOD ACCORDING TO THE BIBLICAL ACCOUNT.  pLANTS AND ANIMS WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH HARDIER THEN, TOUGHTER LAND LIVED LONGER, COULD WITHSTAND THIGNS NO DOUBT THAT THEIR DESCENDANTS TODAY COULDN'T WITHSTAND SO WELL.  aLL THIS IS AGAIN FOR FUTTRUR E STUDY, BUT MEANWHILE IT IS CLEAR THAT THE LAYERS WERE NOT DISTURBED IN THEIR LAYING DOWN AND WERE VIOLENTLY DISTURBED AS A BLOCK AFTERWARD.  wHICH IS SUPPORT FOR A YOUNG EARTH AND AGAINST AN OLD EARTH.





Tuesday, October 22, 2024

lIST OF eVIDENCES aGAINST EVOLUTION

 lIST OF EVIDENCES AGAINST EVOLUTION:


THERE IS NO FOSSIL RECORD BECUASE THE STRATA IN WHICH THEY ARE FOUND CANNOT POSIBLY BE TIME PERIODS.BECAUSE OF THE PHYSICAL SITUATION ALONE.   THEY COULD NOT POSSIB LY EXIST ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH OR AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA AS THE TABLETOP FLAT HORIZONTAL LAYERS OF SEDIMENTS THEY ARE THAT STRETCH FOR THOUSANDS OF SQUARE MILES.


THE FOSSIL RECORD CANNOT EXIST BECAUSE THOSE TSTRATA IN WHICH THEY ARE EMBEDDED SHOW NO SIGNS OF THE DISTURBANCES WITHIN THEM THAT SHOULD BE EXPECTEDED OF ANY SEDIMENTARY LAYER THAT EXISTED ON THE EARTH FORE EVEN A THOUSAND YEARS LET ALONE THE TEND OF MILLIONS ATTRIBUTED TO THEM.


iN THE SO CALLED FOSSIL RECORD ITSELF THERE ARE BOTH EAC  SEA CREATURES AND LAND CRATURES FOUND TOGETHER IN THE SAME SEDIMENTARY LAYER.   THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN IF THE FOSSILS WERE CREATURES THAT DIED AND WERE BURIED IN THE SEDIMENT.  EITHER THE SEDIMENT WS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA OR IT WAS A LAYER OF THE SURFACE OF THE LAND.  yOU WOULDN'T GET LAND ANIMALS IN THE FORMER, NOR FISH IN THE LATTER.


tHE FOSSIL RECORD CAN'T BE EVIDENCE OF EVOLUTION BECAUSE IF IT WERE IT WOULD SHOW EVERY CREATURE SHOWING UP IN EVERY LAYER ABOVE THE FIRST ONE IT APPEARED IN , IN EVEN GREATRER NUMBERS SINCE THEY ALL PERSIST INTO THE PRESENT.  oR AT LEAST THOSE WHO ICH DO PERSIST INTO THE PRESENT WULD SHOW UP IN ALL THE LAYERS, AT LEAST ALL THE SEA CREATURES IN THE SEA LAYERS AND THE LAND CREATURES IN THE LAND LAYERS.   tHEY EXPLAIN THIS AWAY WITH THEIR NOTIONS THAT THERE WERE ALL THESE EXTINCTION EVENTS.   tHAT'S REALLY PRETTY FUNNY.    bUT STILL THERE SHOULD BE ZILLIONS OF SIH IN ALL THE SEA LAYERS AND THERE AREN'T.  aND CROCODILES GALOERE PLUS LIZARDS AND IQUANAS WITH THE MANNMMALS.  ETC.


THAT'S JUST THE GEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE.  tHE BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE STARTS WITH THE OBSERVATION THAT THE GENOME OF EACH SPECIES IS THE SOURCE OF ALL THE VARIATIONS IIN THAT SPECIES, AND THERE IS NO WAY THAT HAS EVERY EVER MBEEN DEMONSTRATED TO TURN THE GENOME OF ONE SPECIES INTO ANOTHER.


aNOTHER EVIDENCE IS THAT AS NEW VARIATIONS ARE DEVELOPED, NEW PHENOTYPES FOR NEW POPULATIONS, THERE HAD TO BE A REDUCTIONIN GENETIC DIVERSITY AS THE PHENOTYPES THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE NEW POPULATION GET ELIMINATED FROM THE POPULATION.  tHIS IS DEMONSTRATED CLEARLY IN DOMESTIC BREEDS WHERE TOEO GET A PARTICULAR BREED REQUIRES LOSING THE TRAITS FOR DIFFERENT BREEDS.   aND EVENTUALLY WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE A PURE BREED WOULD HAVE MANY HOMOZYGOUS GENES FOR ITS ASALIENT TRAITS, HAVING LOST THE ALLELES FOR THE OTHER TRAITS.



kEN hAM TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT EACH SPECIES IS CAPABLE FO ENORMOUS VARIATIONS.  


i THINK i ASHOULD LSO POINT OUT THAT ALONG WITH THE BAZILLIONS OF FISH THAT SHOULD PERSIST THROUGH ALL THE LAYERS IN WHICH ITS SUPPOSED EVOLVED DESCENDANTS ARE FOUND SHOULD  INCLUDE THE VERY FIRST TYPES FOUND.   


aND ALL THE CREATURES FOUND IN THE SO CALLED cAMBRIAN EXPLOSION TOO.  ARE THEY ALL CONFINED TO THAT LAYER?  bAD FOR EVOLUTION IF SO.

bILL nYE DEBATE WITH kEN hAM: a mAJOR pIECE OF eVIDENCE aGAINST eOLUVTION eMERGES

 Now I'm watching an old debate tween Bill Nye who calls himself the Science Guy, and Ken Ham, biblical creationist.  Ham brings up the fact that evolution involves historical science as opposed to observational science, which i've mentioned here many times, and Bill Nuyye challenges that idea, saying science is science, the distinction is meaningless.

But th distinction is not meaningless.  Historical science studies events in the past, one time events that can't be replicated in the lab as observational science often can do.  He says it's like the cience done by crime scene investigation in reconstructing facts to arfive at the identity of the criminal, but this isn't the same thing since they have many other situations of a similar nature to compare it to and use as clues to how to go about the investigation.  That is not true of a one time event in the past.  there is nothing to compare the worldwide flood of noah to.  There is nothing to compare the supposed evolution of one species to another to, say fish to amphibian or reptile to mammal.  All we see in the present is built in variation to a single species through the built in genetic codes ofr that species.  Ther eis no way to see anthing that could show us how ot get a species from a species.  That has to be imagined from scratch.  As does the worldwide Flood.

One thing he says I have to mention, as he goes on to talk about the fossil record:  He says there is not one single case of a fissil in one layer of rock showing up in the next layer.  Not one case he says.  He says that to show how irrational the idea that a Flood created the layers is since you would expect the creatures to try to swim up to the higher layer and pparently they didn't.  But this is more important for the idea of evolution it seems to me, since they are often at pains to tell us that it isn't that one creature just becomes another creature but that the same  reature remains the same while part of the population evolves into the new creature.  Or they branch from the first creature into two different creatures.  Evolution isn't one thing changing into tanother.  Monkeys don't stop existing twhent ,  or I should say apes,  when human beings evolve from them.  They always want us to note that.  

So kokay, th shere should be fossils from lower levels in the level above and in fact in all the levels above that.  Fish evolved into amphibians but we still have plenty of fish in the world and so on.   I'd neve herard that before , that the lower fossils aren't found in starata above their first appearance.  i know it's not completely true because the trilobites show up in many layers, but he did sayh it so there must be one way it is true.  I wish I could find out, but even when I could still see that's the sort of thing it's hard to discover.

But I'll say 8it again.  This is evidence against evolution as much as it might beofre against the Flood.  There is really no sense in the facts as they stand:  each layer befing the location of very particular fossils that don't show up in other layers.  That makes no sense on any system of explanation.  

jUST WAN WBACK TO THE DEBATE AFTER WRITING THE ABOVE TO FIND HIM SAYING THAT THIS IS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT, THAT THERE ISN'T ONE SINGLE INSTANCE OF ONE FOSSIL APPEARING IN THE LAYER ABOVE ALTHOUGH IF THE FLOOD STORY WAS TRUE YOU'D EXPECT ANOMLS IN THE LOWER LEVEL TO TRY TO SWIM UPWARD, AND IF WE COULD PROVE THAT THERE IS SUCH A CAST WE COULD CHANGE THE WORLD.  i GUESS MEANING WE COULD WIN THE DEBATE FOR EVOLUTION ONCE AND FOR ALL.    bUT OF COURSE AS i JUST POINTED OUT WE WOULDN'T.  bECAUSE IT MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE FOR THEIR CASE.

\jUST TO TRY FOR AN ANSWER TO HIS CHALLENGE, i'D START WITH THE FACT THAT THE LAYERS MUST SURELY REPRESENT CHANNELS OR STREAMS OF WATER WITHIN THE OCEAN OF THE FLOOD, THAT PICKED UP AND CARRIED THINGS ALONG IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE DONE MUCH IN THE WAY OF SWIMING ANYWHERE.  jUST FOR ONE EXAMPLE i THINK OF THE LAYER SWEEN INT THE GRAND cANYON THAT WAS STUDIED BY CREATIONIST sTEVE aUSTIN, THE LAYER OF THE NAUTILOIDS.  bAZILLIONS OF THEM ALL IN THAT ONE LAYER, PRETTY CLEARLY ALL SWEPT THERE IN ONE WAVE OR WATER.   

jUTiT'S VERY LIKLY THAT MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE CREATURES IN ANY LEAYER WERE ALREADY DEAD BY THE TIME THEY WERE DEPOSITED ON LAND SINCE THEY WERE SWEPT ALONG WITH TONS OF SEDIMENTS WHICH WOULD SUFFOCATE THEM.  


correction::   OOPS.  wHEN HE SAID IF WE FOUND A FOSSIL FROM A LOWER LEVEL IN TGHE NEXT LEVEL UP WE'D CHANGE THE WORLD i WAS WRONG TO THINK HE MEANT THAT WOULD BE EVIDENCE FOR EVCOLUTION.  oBVIOUSLY HE MEANT IT WULD BE EVIDENCE FOR THE fLOOD.  i GET HIS POINT BUT i DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A BIG THING FOR THE fLOOD, AND IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE MUCH FOR THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION EITHER BECAUSE     eVOLUION

THEY NEED A LOT ORE THAN A SINGLE FOSSIL HERE AND THERE, THEY NEED SWARMS OF FISH IN EVERY SEA LAYER AND AMPHIBIANS IN EVERY LAYER ABOVE THE ONE WHERE THEY FIRST APPEARED IN EVEN HIGHER NUMBERS AND SO ON.

fOR SOME TIME i'VE HAD IN MIND THAT i NEED TO FIND OUT HOW MANY FOSSILS FROM LOWER LEVELS SHOW UP IN HIGHER ONES AND HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION

i'D ASSUMED THERE WERE SOME, i DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE NONE WHICH IS WHT nYE SAYS IS THE CASE.  i STILL FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE.  BUT FOR EVOLUTION TO BE TRUE THERE REALLY DO NEED TO BE JUST AS MANY REPTILES IN THE MAMMAL LAYER AS THE REPTILE LAYER, JUST AS MANY AMPHITIBANS IN THE LAYERS ABOVE THE ONE SWHERE THEY FIRST APPEAR, AND EAVEN MORE THAN WHEN THEY FIRST APPEAR.  bECAUSE ALL THOSE ANIMALS PERSIST INTO THE PERRESENT, THEY DON'T DISAPPEAR WHEN SOME NEW CREATURE APPEARS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE EVOLVED FROM THEM.  bUT THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT THE FOSSIL RECORD SHOWS, ACCORDING TO bILL nYE.  THE EVOLVED CREATURE AND THAT ONE ALONE IN THE LAYER ABOVE THE ONE WHERE THE CREATURE IT SUPPOSEDLY EVOLVED FROM APPEARS.  THAT DOES NOT AMOUNT TO EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION AT ALL.   


i'M ADDING THIS ONE TO MY LIST OF EVIDENCES AGAINST EVOLUTION.  iN FACT i THINK IT'S BETTER EVIDENCE IN MANY WAY



Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham - HD (Official) (youtube.com)


Sunday, October 20, 2024

End Times Galloping Along

 The Pieces of the Puzzle Are in Place – Mark Hitchcock and Curtis Bowers (youtube.com)



This week's Understanding the Times Radio show with Jan Markell.  One of the scary ones.  Out of their very mouths their strategy to take down America.  Who?  The commuist left in this country who are running the show through the Democrats.





Problems with the Usual Dating Methods for Rocks and Fossils

 Why Evolutionary Dating Methods Are a Complete LIE (youtube.com)



I tested that URL and amazingly it's correct, it goes to the video I just watched done by a creatinist to explain why the usual dating methods used to determine the acge of the earth and fossils and so on are not trustworthy.   Many reasons for this.


I've been operating on the reasoning that if I can show that some formations thought to be millions or billions of years old acn'at possibly be that old, that therefore the earth just isn't as old as they keep telling us it is, and the dating methods used to prove it will then just have to be reconsidered.  I think that is true but it doesn't hurt to have some good reasons to see that the dating methods themselves aren't reliable.



Thursday, October 17, 2024

Thomas Sowell One of the Geniuses Whose Wisdom won't Be Appreciated in His own Time

At At least  not by the people who most need to learn from it.

I'm reading, sorry, listening to, his book on You Tube titled The vision of the Anointed, only into Chapter two at the moment, but it's only too clear thta he's going to skewer the Left with the truth in a way tyhat will be intellectually gratifying while practically tspeaking useless.  Maybe future generations whill learn from it. Or maybe not.  Since he's identifying a universal moral and intellectual human failure that is impervious to criticism, which is a big part of his argument.


I don't know when the book was written, not too long ago I suppose, a decade or two perhaps, I'm sure I'

ll find out eventually, but it's so scarily true of what's going on right now s the Left is dragging the nation and perhaps the whole world to destruction and i feel so hopeless about it I swant to play ostrich and just buryin y my head in the sand and never surface again.  Wonderful doucourage there in a time when we need to be trying to confront these unconfrontable bouncy doll sort of people who can't understand evidence.  As Sowell keeps pointing out.


Yeah, the Left, the Left that so prides itself on being superior on aevery scale of human achiemevement or character, intellectually ahnd morally both.  Engaging in incredibly criminal behavior against their opponents while blaming it all on us.  

I know the problem as Marxism but Sowell adds this other dimension to the picture of impervioueness to criticism. 


No matter how many milions die under Communism they refuse to attribute the failutre to OCmmunism but always say it really hasn't been tried yet.  that's the mentality Sowell seems to be talking babout.  So far he's identified leftist policies on welfare as leading to disaster, on sex education in the schools, which i guess now can be related to the gay rights marriage and transgender craziness, and the general attitude toward criminals that they should be understood and ot pu ished, which of course is currently being expressed in the defund the police idiocy an the refusal to arrest the rioters after George Floloyd and now showing no interest in the fact that thousands of foreign criminls have enterred our country.  Sane rational law that governed the west for centuries is now jetitisones d as the evil thing while these idiotic idealistic utopian policies that lead only to destruction are implemented and defended and enver criticized.  


Ig abd and it isn't the Biden administration's mad spending that is the cause of the current inflation, oh no, it's got to be trump because trump doesn't share their ideology therefore he and all his supporters are evil personified.  So they continue to do what brings on inflatgion and the country will cdrown in it and they


z they are the anointed ones, the superior ones, the ones who have the ritht to run things and shut up the rest of us.'ll never tsee their own hand in it.


Destroy the achievers.  they're the oppressors you know.  Destroy them and be soft on the criminals and the unmotivated poor insted of working to create conditions that would bring them into the circle of the achievers.


Sauturday:  Just finished Chapter two.  He might as well be describing what's going on right now though he's writing about p[olicies that got started in the sixties mostly and did their damage before the end of the century.  The War on Poverty, Sex education in thes schools and favoring the criminal as the victim of society as if that would rehabilitate them.  YHikes.  It's just as powerful now if not more so and it's wrecking the nation and they just keep on doing it and Sowell explains why it will never be reversed.


The liberals are of course the Anointed, and I am one of the Benighted along with all my fellow conservatives.  


Ouch.

So I Figure It's Time to Tell The REst of the Story

 I found a basic stratigraphy presentation that purports to explain how the sedimentary rocks get there in the first place, which is something I've needed to find out, and it's just as unconfincingly as I expected it to be.  Sediment is carried by various means from a source such as an eroding mountain.  how the mountain produced a single sediment is not explained.  And then it is said that the sediment is eroded or disturbed in some way, although the fact is that there is not a hint of a shred of an iota of such disturbance in a single layer of sedimentary rock to bee   be seen anywhere that I've seen.  What is seen is blocks of strata broken up after it was all in place.   And the disturbance is on the surface, not within the layer itself.  

They are misled by the fact that much of the existing visible strata are in fact broken up and they misinerpret the erosion or other disturbance seen on its surface to the time period of the layer itself that is exposed.   So they interpret the tectonic upheaval thta caused the Gret Unconformity at the based of the Grand Canyon to the precambrian time period, before the layers were built up that can be seen in the exposed walls of the canyon itself.

I spend a lot of time demonstrating from the craosss section of the Grand Staircase to Grand canyon area that there isn't a hint of disturbance shown to any individual layer of rock, but there is massive disturbance after it is all laid down.  If there is no disturvance to the individual layers then how tcan they represent time perdios of millions of years on this very active planet?  Whether at the bottom of the sea or at the surface of the land or even buried under some depth of land ther is no way they could have formed slowly over time whether millions or thousands or tends of years without being subjected to all kinds of disbturbances.  

but they aren't.  And I suppose that is acknolwedged for the Grand Canyon area, but not in other places swhere the strata are not preserved in such pristine condition but broken up and twited and so on.   however, even in those places a core thrust deep into the land turns up the same kind of layers undisturbed over thousands of square miles.    Still if not all thelayers are present they , the scientists I mean, interpret disbturances in relation to whatever part of the column is present at a given location.  this is because of their assumptions beult on their dating methods of millions of years.  They assume gradual deposition of the sediments so if say a rock of devonian age is exposed soemwshere and ther is a volcanic dike connected with it the volcano is said to have occurred in that time period.  And so on.

I do think the absolutely undisturbed appearance of the very deep block of layers on that Grand Canoyon cross section is itself evidence that there was never any disturbacnce whatever during any so called time period.  Or it would be inm evidence there as everywhere else.  There is no volcano that disturbed the edevonian layer in that area so if it seems to be associated with the devonian somewhere else that is an illusion, it's just that the layers were broken off at that level and so was the dike.

I know I'm awfully cocksure of myself for a nonscientist but that's whthe way it is, I know I've got this right and Im slso sure I'm not going to be able to get it across to anyone who is the captive of the prevailing theory.    I say I know that but of course I hope it's not ture.

Anyway, her's what I think happened.  I have some of this in agreement with othe creationists bur a loft of it is my own.   Most creationists accept the rpevailing idea for instance that the Great Unconformity at the base of the Grand Canyon was there before the strata above it were laid down.   this despite the fact that there are layers of sedimentary rock beneath the grand Canyon ajust the same as above it, and ther is really no way to explain the strata at all except by identical processes.  You can't say the strata from the Cambrian to the Permian were laid down by the FDlFlood of Noah but not those beneath the Canbrian or above it.    Theyh are clearly all formed in exactly the same way whatever that way is.

So I pondered te angular unconformity for awhite a while.  I looked at the one at Siccar POint for some time, and many others that you an find on the internet.  The standard interpretation is that a certain number of layers were laid down and then a tectonic formce folded them.  Then a long time elapsed during which the upper part of the folds were eroded away and smoothed down, and then the enxt layer was deposited horizontally on top of it.   And all the rest if any after that in their own time of millions of years per each.

the problem wi this idea in the Grand Canyon is that the strata rise up over the Great Unconformity in a mounded shape and that is not how strata are laid down.  They are laid down perfectly horizontal and flat and would not smoothly slimb over even such a gentle slope, let alone a whole stack of them.   Yet this is the prevailitng tgheory.  they think the unconformity itself is what is left of a great mountain rancge, or some think that.  At least it was there a long time before the next layer was laid down, and it had to be eroded flat before that happened.

Looks pretty obvious to me that the strata were all there already and then the great unconformity occurred as a result of the tectonic forme, which was powerful enough to push up the entire stack of strata immediateloy above it.  Look at the cross section.  That's how it looks and it makes perfect sense.    

And at the very top of that mounded area there would have been a great deal of strain so that I theorize that cracks developed in the upper layers and broke them up down to the Permian layer which is the current rim of the Grand Canyon.  It was this cracking that opened up the canyhon itself and is the bcause of the canyon.  

Since I believe the strata were all laid down by Noah's flood, I think of this has happeneding at the very end of the Flood while the water was still fully covering the earth.  Some great upheaval ocurred at that point that began the processes that caused the Flood waters to drain, perhaps a lowering of the sea floor as some creationists have suggested.  There had to be some way for the waters to recede, something had to happen to craete somewhere for the water to go.    And some sort of great upheaval deep in the earth would be a reasonable guess.

So the upheaval slamemed into the lower strata and forced the pushing up of the Great Unconformtiy which caused strain at the very top of the geological column, cracking open the layers that started breaking up into chunks and falling int to the cracks to carve out the canyon as the flood was reeding.   

The Grand Staircaes to the north on that same cross section is also created at that same time.  The land was pushed up there shown at the far left and the strata broke off in the stepwise fashion that created the staircase effect.  Those layers climb above the Permian which is the rim of the Grand Canyon, all the way up toto recnet time.    they include the cinosuar layers, the triassic, jurassic, cretacious and then the mammals and modern flora and fauna abogve that.   

One clue that all this occurred after all the strata were in place is the magma rising up through the entire depth of the strata on the vfarleft of the cross section, all the way from the bottom, beneath the lefvelo f the grand Canyoh tot he very top.  This volcano obvoiusly occurred after all wer e in place because it penetrates the entire stack from bottom to top.   

That volcano and the Great Unconformity under the Grand Canyon seem to me to be clear evidence that the y were part of the same massive disturbance that occurred right after the strata were laid down and at thee very end of the Flood, causing it to recende3 and breaking up strata over the canyon area.

I also think this upheaval was worldwide.  That is was the breaking up of the continentns, the beginning of the tectonic movements that separated the continewnts which ad prviously been all in one great continent which is alled Pangaea.  Of course I reject all the timing customarily given to it.  I think the continents started to break up and move apart, the Atlantic ridge was the main line of this separation in that part of the world, causing the Americas to move apart from Europe and Africa which of course Wegener eventually identified as having once been connected, evidenced by their fossils as well as the shape of the land, the shorelines that match so well.

So I realized I had a different idea about tht Great Unconformity and about Angular Unconformties  unconformities altogether.  So my theory is that every angular unconformity found anywehre on the planet was formed tat this time.  the massive tectonic movement shook up the entire planet , borke up the recnetly formed strata everywhere, twisted it in some places, updended broekn up parts of it as in the british iseles and strewed them across the entire eisland.  Also in the state of Tennessee.  And no doubt wmany other places.  

The moutnains were all formed or at least begun at this time, the Appalachians and the Alps being clearly folded accordian wise like the borrom parts of angular unconformtiies, the Himalayas and the rockies being more abruptly thrust upward and broken off more sharply.  but all caused by the same tetonic event that was worldwide.  The volcanoes too wer all triggered at this time,  all those in the path of land being pushed over them anway.


When I proposed some parts of theas ideas on the EvC formum I got objectsionas about how such activity would cause so much heat the planet couldn't sustain it, Noah and family couldn't have survied and so on and so forth.  Especialy since I think the continents tstarte dourt spearating at a rae must faster than is now occurring, I forgot what I calculated, a matter of feet per some very short period of time.    

As I ponsdered all this, God helping me I know, or even leading me as far as I know, I realized that the Flood itself had begun with the breaking up of the water camopy indicated to have been put in place at the creation over the earth which would have kept it warm and moist and made it very lush and green.  this iw aht broke up with the rain began.  It had never rained before but then the whole thing just collapsed and it rained all over the earth for fort days and forty nights.   A thte same time something deep in the ocean broke up , the foundaints of the deep, and the flood roase to a great height in a matter of months.  

So that canopy of moisture would have been gone by the end of the flood and the planet would have been exposed to cold outser apaced as a result.   So I figure that whever headt wqas generated by all the activity of the tectonic movementg and the volcanoes was rapidly dissipated into the   into that speace tsince there was no layer of greenhouse gasses there to impede it.  

This would have brought on an ice age.  I figure that is when the eatrth became smowball earth as someone dubbed it.    And this one idce age, there has only been one over the last forty five hundred years since the flood, has been advancin and retreating little by little, more retrating than advancing until we now have the warming that is getting called Climeate Change and blamed on humanity rather than these natural forces.l

Oh and metors would have been pounding the earth and the other planets during this upheaval which must have affected the entire solar system so that the iridium that is taken to be the cevidence of the detero that killed the dinocasuares was just one of many parts of the great upheaval that occurred athte end of the Flood.

Noah and family must have been fairly well protected in the ark stuck on the side of Ararat durin gall this walthough they must have been arearware of earthquakes and asmokyh atmosphere and so on and so forth.  But the open sky would have dissipated the smoke.  But they woudl have had to cope wit h the cold now.  And I suppoe that's whast they did.  Although perhaps there are climat e cidfferences in different part os fht eearth in spit of all this to be taken into account.

I think all this lays out the work o future scientists if theyu would lonly come to their senses adn see that something like this iw hat must have ahappeneed, and that were aawe are living int he end part of the world ravaged by the Flood and subject to disease and death as a result of the Fall.  

Added laterr:  Ididn't explain how the angular unconformity gets created.  I ifigure that the main force of the tectonic push came from the idea and buckled the strata from the side rather than beneath.  It buckled beneath some depth of flat lying strata above it.  Ififigure the two sections would hav split at some point of weakness where the great force from the side below would push something heavy underneath a layer of a certain texture that would allow it to slide fairly easily beneath it.  I picture this as somewhat akin to the parlor trick of pulling a tablecloth out from under a complete table setting without disturbin g the dishes and other things on the surface.    But it had to be that the force beneath was very sltrong and from the side and the upper strata ere very heavy and there wouas some point of eakness between the two that was a at a balance point between the two forces.    

I also want to asdd that after having listented back to this post as I always try to do using the read aloud function, as ususal of course I recognize my own many typos, but Ialso suspect the usual intrference from some external influence as some of the words are just not something I couwould ahve created  even making my usual mistakes.    Just have to keep reporteing it because it's very disturbing that someone else would be interfering with my writing, or even a program maybe that could attched to my blog.  



Friday Oct eighten.  Been trying to find out the dates assigned to the formation of the monuments in Monument Valley and all I get are stories about how it's been used in western movies and how it is a tourist attractions and so on.  In a related video about Arches National Park in Utah it was said to be hundreds of thousands of years dold but is that the date it started forming into those shapes or the date when the rock was originally formed or what or am I asking the wrong equestion.  Anyway, even if it' s only been say a hundred thousand years since those formtions and the buttes in Monument Valley were exposed in their current form, the erosion that fllowed should have destroyed a mlot more of them than it has it seems to me.  A million years should ahve reduced the whole thing to a pile of dust.  It seems to me.  In which case they make a good argument for a young earth as does the arguments I make from the cross section of the grand canyon area I talk about above.


La Late Sunday Night

there is a rest of the story for the biological arguments too, meaning the overall scenario I have in mind based on the biblical accounts that build on the evidence given.  The evidence in both the geological and the biological arenas as aimed against evolution but of course it supports the biblical account at the same time.  If the earth is not biolions of years old but much younger then there is room for the biblical Flood to explain it all.  If you can't get to a new species from a given genome that supports the biblical account of the creation of separate Kinds.  I use the term Species fror these Kinds and at some point the terminology is going to have to a be completely cleared up I suppose, but anywaythe rest of the story in this case concerns the Fall and the effect of the Flood on the genetic situation of living things.    I'm not going to spell it out here, it's probably as lengthy as what I did above anyway, I just want to point out that there is a symmetry involved.

Monday, October 14, 2024

Creation Evolution Debate between Dr. Wile and Dr. Robert Martin at Phi Beta Kappa University of Kentyucky

Before I got back to the post on stratigraphy I cam across a video of a creationism-evolutionism debate, which I think helps me flesh out some of my points.  The main thing for me is that the creatinonist position isn't convincing to me.  I get the argument, I thinki in the end it is true, but it doesn't work for the debate.  The presenter, A Dr. Wile, I hope that is how he spells his name, unless it's Weil, which is possible, argues that the incredible complexity and efficientcy of living systems is evidence for a deisigner and that random evolutionsry processes could not accomplish it.  I'm sure this is true but as I said I don't think it works for the debate.  Evolutionists doen't have any evidence for their case but all they have to do is say Oh Natural Selecion brings about wonderful adaptations that look like Design and that's the end of it.


dr. Wil also argued that so called vestigial organs are ctually functionint organs and not remnants of former evoltuionary stages.  Same with Junk DNA, he claims functions have been found for it so that it also is not the discarded genes from former evoltuionary stages.  I've argued here lready against the latter two positions, but then he goes on to mutations and there I agree with him that they do nothing but destroy function and add nothing to it.  


he then points out the experiments which show that sedimentary layers can be deposited simultaneously such as the bgBerthault study in the nineties.  I think all that is very good and I was impressed with it at the time.  Nevertheless I prefer my much simply approach to all this stuff as far as making a case in the debate goes.


This is one of those posts I have to keep coming back to so I hae to post what I hae already fincished as I go.  Sorry bout that.

TO BE CONTINUED.


Sunday, October 13, 2024

A Course in Stratigraphy


Great fun for me, at least when he finally gets to the Grand Canyon and all the unconformities and disconformities and so on, because I thought so much about all that and have my own theories about it all that golly gosh disagree with the stuff he's teaching.

This is all in the first section of the class and there are to be eight altogether.  Unless he's already been moving through them  and I just can't tell when he moves from one to another, that's quite possible.  In which case he must be up to about number four.

Ayway, earliy onhe covered Steno's Laws and Steno is my guy for sure.  the Principle of Superposition of course, followed by the Principel of Original Horizontality ,, eveyr important, and the third is the Principle of Lateral extension, meaning the layers extend for quite some distance laterally.  

Stratitgraphy is the study of those tstrata I keep talking about, in case that wasn't clear.

Of course there is no mention of the imposssibility of such a laywr existing either on the sea borttom or on the usrface of the land as I keep arguing.  He says all were deposited under water though, at the bottom of the sea, but the sea bottom is not tabletop flat while these layers are and he just slides right on by that fact.


POST IN PROGRESS


I don't disagree with all of it of course, but the tiiming comments I do disagree with for starters.  The principel of uniformitarianism for instance.  





 ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT_iFrjzWN0&list=PLZzjCZ3QdgQDzE7Xaxas3J11tFImpXcjB&index=4

Saturday, October 12, 2024

Abortion Discussion at You Tube

 Sometimes I think I'm going to take a break from my blog for a while, and sometimes that does happen, but most of the time I just run into something else right away that I want to write about.  I write way too much I guess, and now it's hard to find so many of the blogs I've written in the past because I can no uslonger use some of the functions I used to depend on to track my posts.   And since Google rearranged their algorithms or whatever it is they did so that nobody can find my blogs any more I'm just writting into the wind as it were anyway.

Enought of that.  The point is that I did just run into another topic to write about.  It just showed up at the top of the You Tube page and without knowing what it was I clicked on it to find out and oh wow, a panel discussion on abortion with three doctors who formerly performed aboritions and three women who had had abortions.  They had all become Christians and that is probably the main reason they all had had a change of heart about what they had done.  

It made me cry of course just as I cried he first time I realized that the abortion I had had at the age of twenty was the killing of my own child and not just a medical procedure to eliminate unwanted tissue from my body.   Even as I say that I realize I didn't beleive that even at the time, or I did but I didn't.  I knew it was a child if only because I had a dream that made it clear it was a child, a little girl waving at me from the back of a hearse as it drove away.  I marveled at such imagery in my dream but I didn't cry then.  I cried thirty or so years later when I was with a group of women in church after having becoome a Christian watching a film about abortion.  They showed the tiny human being being aborted by a prove chasing it around the womb trying to get away from it.  And then I cried, and I criy now just thinking about it again.

How they le to us.  And some enormous number of women today still believe those lies and are angry that Roe v Wade got thrown out by the Superme Court even though they can still get their precious murder done it's just a little less convenient in some cases.   

I shouldn't mock them, they are deceived just as I had been, they don't know what they are doing.  

this video I've just been watching is starkly realistic about the mental state of each memeber before  and after the point where they realized they could no longer do or have an abortion and regretted doing it in the past.  

I don't know if I succeeded in capturing the URL or not, but I've posted it below.  The title of the discussion is 

Abortion  p[roviders Meet Women Who Regret Their Abotitons

so it can be found without the URL on You Tube.


Abos://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGnUG61f_2A



Evolution is a Fraud

 Of course they think they have evidence for evolution.  They've coopted it from ordinary variation within the genome of a species, simply included that as a phase in evolurtion from species to species to species although there is no evidence for that, only for the variation we all know existds within a given speciea.  

Word mai, just difine things according to your prejudcice, which begs the question and eliminated your competition which defines them differently, and voila, a whole scientific field treated as establsished dogma.  Yep, evolution.

They defne evolution as change in a population over time.  Golly gosh, but creationists know there is change in populations over time, we know it to be variation within a species and only within a species and it's not evolution.  

the one thing the purveyors of this intellectual fraud don't do is provide evidence that it is possible to turns turn a enome into another genome, that is, turn one species into another.  They don't need to pbother, there's so much they can csay about the variations that we know occur all the time within a species and as along as they are calling that evolution they never have to bother proving that there are actual changes that lead to new species.

Of the sily fine species in a way that cooptes the point.  Speciation is the simply inability to interbreed with a former population that can ovccur when two populations of the same species get isolated from each other for some great noumber of generations.  The genome can undergo enough change to make repruduction impossible between the, and this they define as speciaition which they regard as a step to evolution, a step on that very path.  

This is intellectual fraud.  Perhaps in a way more or less innocent since they really believe this stuff, but it's false and they never do anything to deal with the fact that they haven't shown and can't show any change on the order of magnitude that they claim to be the case in say the fossil record.  they get only as far as two species of bird simply because although those two birds look almost identical they can't interbreed so they call it evolution.  or two species of frog or anything else that has been separatied longenough from others of that species to have lost the bability to interbreed.  

This is not evolution and it's a fraud to claim that it is.

You need to show that it's possible for a change to occur...EVER...that could change traits in a genome to such an extent that it is no longer the genome of the species it started out to be.

This is impossible but they will deny it and just go on in their delusion while at the same time vilifying us creationists for daring to point it out.


Dawkins, Clyne, all of them, are guilty of committing this fraud.

Gene flow is called a mechanism of evolution.  This is ridiculous.  You've got a dooo  dog breed and a bunch of them get loose and migle with the dog populationin general.  that's gene flow and it doesn't produce evolution, it causes the breed to revert to something more like the original dog population whatever that was.    Gene flow doesn't add anything, it merely ireintroduces what was orignally there.


And so on and so forth.  I could write a book if I were thirty years younger and not legally blind.

The Left Doesn't Understand Economics

 Don't remember who burt someone I heard recently quoted Milton Friedman, popular economist a few decades agao, on the subject of inflation saying that it is caused by only one thing and nothing else, which is government spending and the printing of money to cover it.  Period.  of course Democrats don't like friedman and prefer their own economic opinions which of course are going to bury the country 

in their inflationary excesses.

and then Kamala blames big corporations like the big food chains for price goucghing and promises to bring that to an end.  But they aren't price gouging, they are barely keeping afloat on this tidal wave of inflation that her own administration has let loose on the country.   If they have to bring their prices down any more they could go out of business and many no doubt will.

Friendman also criticized the minimum age as hurting young black people just entering the work force because businesses can't afford to pay high wages and cut back on their employees when forced to pay them, and are not going to hire anyone for the menial staring positions at such high wages that they would otherwise offer young people just starting out.    Liberals are just irrational about economics but very aggressive oabout it at the same time.

Tjeu a;sp tjoml tje wea;tjoest [ep[;e are mpt [auonmg tjeor faor   they also think that the welathiest people ar enot paying their fair share as they say ofver and over and over again, but the highest income bracket pays forty percent, which sounds pretty outrageous as a percentage of income to pay in taes to eme.  They earned their wealth so why aren't they allowed to do with it as they please?   Decomracts don't like tletting them have such control over their own money.  

but when ty do have control over it, such as wehn their tazxes are reduced they contribute a ctgreat deal to the welath of the nation as a whole, explanding business, hiring more employees, raising wages among other things and this increases the tax revenue overall , sometimes even doubling it as I understand was the case under Reagan.  


But liberals have no clue.


I keep forgetting the numbers but the upper incoeme brackets contribute more than half of the taxes already, and the lowest income bracket pays no taxes at all but even gets money backfrom the government.  I'd say the rich are paying their fair share at leas, and anyway if you tax them more they are just going to leave the country and we'll get no tax money from them at all.