So what I had thought was headway in a disussion with a liberla turned out not to be which got me the usual Wat did ou expect from a liberal? meaning you might as well give up, he gave up long ago. I an' t give up though. I have to think it's possible tht if you really ahve some facts that cofrrect a liberal misinformation that the liberal has to be honest enough to recognize3 that fact and change course at least on that one issue. I still think that. But ome form of denial seems to reign for the moment at least. Nevertheless I'm not giving up.
All I have are a few incidents in which the facts are provable. There are endless incidents that seem obviously enough to me to be falsely represented by the liberal media but I don't hav the incontgrovertible facts in those cases. Ao all I have are a few incidents, rather old by now which my liberal friend treated as some kind of argument against them, but the facts are incontrovertible so I continue to depend on them. I'm sure I've brought this up here before but things nieed to be represated from time to time.
First one is the Charlottesville speech in which Trump was mischaracterized as saying newNazies are good people. What he said was that there are good bpoeople on both sides of this issue of whether historical monuments should be removed or left, and since there were neoNazis protested at the scene along with others he was taken to be tsaing that neoNazis are good peop,e. And tht is still believed by a great many on the lieft. I asked my liberal friend if that's what she sthought he said and she said yes. So I said that she should listen to his speech through to the end as toward the end he clearly says that he is not talking about the neoNazis that they should be condemned. He says that very specifically, but that was not included in the news reports at the time or ever. That is how the leftist medial create fake news to make Trump look bad, or conservatives in general and so on. Just leave out whatever would contradict the smear they want to make people believe about Trump. Trump has also repudicated the neo Nazis since thern but that never gets int othe main sources of news that liberals follow eight. You have to go out of your way to find such things. Which is why it is importnat to bring these things up and point them toward the sources that would correct their false impression.
I would think it would be a slam dunk, that an honest liberal would simply see the truth and have to admit it. And learn from it that if this incident was falsfied to make Trump look bad a lot of other things they believe about Trump are very likely the result of the same sort of smear campaign. I would think that would be a slam dunk. Apparently it isn't and I really don't get why not.
The other incident I like to use is the account of Trump's supposedly mocking a disabled reporters disability with a hand flopping gesture he makes which I guess is meant to imitate a befuddled garbled disorderly behavior or some sort. Such as perhaps a disabled person might do or something like that. nd that is exactly the pimpression the leftist media wanted to create and cuccceded in creating in the mind so f a great number of liberals in this country. And my liberal friend is no exception as she answered my question whether she believes that is what Trump did by saying yes she did belive it. So Isaid that there are videos available that show him making that exact same getsture in repsonse to a number fof other people who are not disabled, making it clear that he was mocking their opinion, not their person. Again that ought to be a slam dunk revelation of how the news sources create false impressions to smear Trump, but again somehow I gather it was brushed off. Beyond my comprehension.
Then I also refer to the George Floyd case, asking if the person believes Floyd was killed by racist cops. A huge number of people in this country still think that was the case. My friend said no in this case so I asked if she belie verd it was police brutality instead and she said yes to that but she acknolwedged that it was donge according to police directives in their training manusl so that the problem was not the cops but the plice policy itself. The problem is hat we didn't follow up on this. If it was police policy that was correctly followed then drerk chauvin did not murder Geolrge Floyd. It would have to have been a rogue misbehavior on his part to justify that conclusion. Also my firend did not know about the incident in which a white man, Tony Timpa, was ,killed by aexactly the same police maneuver in another part of the country around the same time. That should definitely ively show that it was rnor tracism and even if she had rejected that conclusion she should acknowledge that a misimpression was given that justified weeks of rioting and destruction in cities. But liberals don't let themselves object to such things no matter what I guess.
So much for attempts to get liberals to see facts.
I was told that Trump acted like a child in storming out of the coutnrtrrom in the case of defamation brought against him for his rejection of some woman named Carroll's claim that he assaulted her sexually years ago. Childish of him. Well, liberals think all these court cases are legitimate legal actions. We on the right know they are rigged and examples of the corruption of our justice system for political reasons on the part of the Left. Trump knows he's being unujustly treated as usual so storming out of the courtreem seems like an undrstandable reaction to me, but ieven if you'd rather see more dignity and decorum from the Guy from QAueens as he is sometimes referrred to, the act remaisns that this is dfefinitedly a case of miscarriage of justice, not at all a case of a legal proceeding which should be treated with respect. The very fact that one woman's testimony is allowed to be used against a person is a miscarriage of justice. The bible requires two or three witnesses in order to exstablish a person's guilt. You commit an injustice when you take one person's word for it against anytother, and thoughat ought to be obvious to anyone. Trump is bwing dragged through unjust attacks on him for political reasons. Well, it's produced the very positive outcome that Trump supporters know he is being unjustily treated and are rising up to make him the most strongly supported candidate for President in history. good sign that there is something of American spirit left in this country.
There is also that ridiculous accusation of him as supposedly inciting insurrection on January sixth. Does nobody ever listen to that speech he made? Guess not. The evil on the side of the left is so think you'd think even those ON the left might begin gto notice it. Not yet I guess.
Allegations that women have been offered money to testify to sexual assault in ortder to entrap a man , say Donald Trumkp in particular, float around. I/ve been trying to find some evidence of a particular allegation that I've been told about but I can't find it. Working on it.
But when all you have is one accuser, one witness, the legal case can't be just no matter what.
I listened a bit to some discussion by leftists on MSNBC about the Trump case he walked out on yesterday Which by the way was perfectly within his right to do since he was there by choice just to hear the proceedings and not required to be there. Anyway these liberals go on and on about how nobody is above the law but Trump acts as if he thinks he is. I don't know how they think a person would act who knew he was being reailroaded and that the legal proceedings were all a politial game to hurt him. In such a case maybe he would act in a way intended to register a protest in the the hminds of his audience? Maybe that could be construed by enemies to be putting himself above the law when what it really is is a protest that the law is in this case corrupted and broken. Again some call him a Guy from Queens. Some of his personality quirks perhaps result from that background and are not to be interpreted as the left loves to interpret them. A lovely young woman called Georgia H as I recall who did a podcast about her discovery that she was being lied to by liberals was on you tube a few years ago, and may still be for all I know, called him a guy from queens and seem ed to think that accounts for a lot of what people hold against him.
This is all very sickening stuff. For one thing everything against trump is somebody's word against him, nothing else. In the case of Biden we have a video of himtalking about bribing Ukrainian officials to protect his son from a prosecutor looking into Hunter biden's financial midsdeeds, and we have evidence from a lptop belonging to Hunter biden full of incriminating evidence . but what is used as evidence against Trump has to be made to look like something it isn't. A speech about peaceful protest has to be called a n incitement to insurrection and if it's called that over and over again they figure it will become a reality although all he ever did was describe people protesting peacefully. In the ases above information crucial to understanding what he said and did is simply left out by the media. But the lefties continue to go on and on with their hatred of the man, using words to smear him in a million ways. Lies lies andmore lies. And the average liberal seems to accept it as simple truthy.
They can sound plausible in their accusations and allegations against Trump. But then I remember how flimsy their foundation for any of it really is. We know that Hilary Clinton bought the Russian dossier to smear Trump during his first election campaign. How manyu of average liberals know that? The Mullier Report found nothing because there was nothing to find. The two impeachmenets were a clear sham based on making ordinary actions into criminal actions, which is a lot of what the left is doing against trump. With all that going on any actual charge he might be guilty of is impossible to ascertain. Despite the endless accusations and allegations against him in the end it looks to me like absolutely nothing sticks, he's guilty of none of it. None. Yet they have piled up a mountain of crime
Amazing how willing these liberal pundits are to just blather on about Trump and conservaitives in general as if they could analyze everybody's personality off the top of their own partisian political heads. .
How do they get away with that
