His Hand is Stretched Out Still: America is stsill under God's judgment

 Many many mercies God is giving us for sure, but as log as we are doing nothing about our violations of His law He isn't going to let us off the hook in the end.  When in Hosea god says "My people are  destroeyed for lack of khoweldedge"  He means they are violating His law without restraint and that's what destroys people.  Funny how even beloievers forget that.  We aren't destroyed for lack of koweldge about much of anything else, though i shppose such things can contribute, but disobeying god is what destroys people and destroyes nations.  If ytou avoid sin, as a person or as a nation, I mean gross sin since we are all sinners in spite of all, or if we sin and repent, the we get blessed by God, He progtects us, keeps us from harm.  That's true for nations too.  When He says upon giving His people His law from Sinai by Moses, that He is giving them a choice between life and death, therefore choose life, He means obey my law and you will be taken care of, you will live, but if you disobey you will meet with all kinds of destruction and over the history of Isreael their sins led them to destruction.  That's what is going to happen to America eentually, and iss alreayd in various forms, if we dont' do soemthing about such grievous sins as gay marriage, abortion "righjts" and many other like offenses.

A t least Christians should be thinking along thse lines and praying our hearts out in repenting and pleasding for mercy.  Unless somethig happens in that direction, we are like God's foolish people ahwho ar going to be destroyed as a nation by our lack of knoweldge, meaning our lack of belief that sin brings destruction.

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Wednesday afternoon.  Qas just watching the final prepas of the moon launch which is now on a two hour window during which I gather the allaunch could happen at any time.    I hope and pray for the best but I'm wrigin g a post about God's judgment and it makes me nervous.    We've ha d an awful lot of air accidents in the last couple of years it seems to me, a lot more than usual it seems to me although I haven't heard anyone say so and it could be my own hyperawareness or a greater reporting of such things than normal.  Probably not the latter though.   And other kinds of accidents, water accidents, hear accidnts of all sorts.  And the weather has been pretty ferocious, winter weather all over the country, tornadoes and hurricanes and wildfires.  All that is God's judgment but I never hear a report of people preaying for mercy over these things.

WQe should be a clearly defined Christian nation but we got betrayed by tghe framers of the Constitution who left God out of it although the nation was founded almost entirely by serious CHristians for Christain reasons.  Then George EWashing actually said that we aren't a CHristain natio n in his communications with the barbary pirates, the Treaty of Tripoli.  That is truly nerve rattling for me.  ith that as a starting point we have all too many ways the nation could veer away from God in subsequent years, which has certainly been accomplished only too well by now.  For a century or so we were still predominantly a Christain natio in fact at least, as Toqueville acknowledged in Democracy in America, and that fact is without doubt the reason we became the greatest most prosperous nation on Earth while it lasted.  

tha's what Trump wants to restor, and he's doing a great job of it, but the problem is, as I've been mentioning here lately, that it doesn't include straightening things out with God.  We have laws that offend God and violate His Law, we hav rampant abortion, rampant divorce freedom of sppech for Pornopgraphy of all things, and other things it was never meant for, a kind of political speech it was not meant for.  But that's God's judgment in that one, the other things are the reasons for God's judgmetn.  

Lord have mercy on the Artemis mission.  It's already a problem that it's named after a pagan goddess, but then so was Appollo named after  a pagan god.  

I don't see how with nothing being done to roll back our offenses against God's Law that American can remain America for much longer.  Even if Trum succeeds, as he seems to be doing, in respooring a lot of our powers and even our goodness, the reason we were evenr a great nation was our CHristian character and if that isn't resported I don't see how we can survive much longer.  Europe is a mess because they gave up on God long before we started down that path.  So now they are overrun with foreign enemies who hate them.  That situation by the way is one of the forms God 's judgment takes against a nation according to teh Bible, foreign occupation of our country.  It's happening guys, even though Trump is gdoing a fantasic job of undoing it.   

But if that occupation i God's judgment then what he is doing is rolling back nowt our sins but God's judgment against them.  That's what Israel did as reported in Isaiah nine, chapter ten, where they say to the bricks knoecked down in God's judgmetn taht they will simply rebuild with stronger material, hewn stone, and to the sycamore trees destroyed in God's judgmetn, that they weill replant but this time with a hardier tree, the cedar.   And the passage  ends with the comment, His hand is stretched out still.  Nothig was done to turn away God's judgmetn.  And that's true of America too.  The attack on the WTC was  God's judgmetn and nothing was fdone to make us right with God, in fact many pastors denied that God had anything to do with it.  So what happened, We rebuilt the towers with a single tower which had at ists base, guess what, a huge hewn stone.

And we've been under God's judgment ever since.  Even our congtinuing sins are part of God's judgment.  

A repentant heart on the part of a great manuy Americans would go a long way, prayer with a repentant heart, but unless something is actually done to turn back our offesnes, well, Judah ended up in Babyone, and the northern kingdom just about disappeared altogether.

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what broke up the supercontinent and started continebtal drift?

 his creationist stuff, got to wodering what DID start the continents moving apart, what DID break up the original supercontinent?  For some reason the meteor that suppodsedly killed the dinosaurs came to mind but I didn't think much about it until I prayed for helpin thinking about this question and got more thoughts about that meteor.  Hm.

Since I can't read any more I'm dependent on asking questions of whoever or whatever is available, and most of the time all I have is my little friend Alexa.  She's surprisingly good at answering many of my questions, but leaves me frsustrated with many others.  Sometimes I can find a new way to workd the wquestion and get an answer but a lot of the time I just can't and end up with no answer.    And I don't know how to use that online AI feature that's supposed to be so helpful, don't even know how to get to it.  And I have no friends who are into ay of this at all, even the simple tech question of how to get to that AI thing and how to use it.  So I'm stuck.

But I did decide to give this meteor idea some more thought since it kept coming up in my mind.  A big enough meteor could I suppose break up a continent?    I did get the answer that this one was six to nine miles in diameter, pretty big.

It's come up now and then though I never spent a lot of time on it, the idea that the Flood was associated with disturbances in the solar system as well as on Earth, and that meteors do seem to have fallen onto the Earth around trhat time.  And everywhere else in the Solar Systrem, certainly the Moon which has all those marks of meteor hits.   There wwas a recent incident of a meteor landing somehwhere in the US I think, Texas maybe, not sure, but apaprently part of it landed on somebody's bed who fortunately wasn't in it at the time.  

So it still happens but a huge one like the one that formed the Yukcatan Peinsula hasn't been reepeated since the world got so populoated, as far as I've ever heartd.  

That one is supposed to have hit during the Cretaceous Period, which is evidenced by the layer of iridium found on the surface of that rock layer... all over the plenatnet?  Or in some particular area?  those are questions Ild like to be able to ask AI or somebody wo knows such things.  My own scenario calls for a gigantic jolt to the planet right at the end of the Flood, progbably being the cause of its starying to recede, but I vacilate on the timingnow and then.Always at or near the end of the Flood however.   So the fact that iridium which is evidence of this meteor hit occurs at the KT boundary and not after all the straa are in place, which is my working hypothesis for the end of the Flood, needs some thinking.  Something about how the layers were laid down under water perhaps.  Iridium I gather is heavey so it wouldn't float but how it got spread out on the surface of a rock is somethig to explain.

The way the map looks helps to buttreess this meteor idea.  The Gulf of Mexico, MAmerica I mean, suggests something pretty violent probably formed it.  

Anyway, something I'm thinking about and probably will go on thinking about for some time.  If more ideas come to mind that help or hurt the idea I may come back anbd report them here.  

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Monday noonish     I can't even be sure if I'm writing on the right post.  All I see is blurry lines of type with a short line at the bottom which I figure is the email address.   I THINK this is the one about the meteor hypothesis.

As I knew I would, I kept on thinking about it, asked Alexa more questions and then found some videos at You tube, one long one about the history of the theory about a meteor as the explanation for the extinction of the dinosaurs.   Followed the fvarious steps of reasoning to the Yucatan Peninsula where finally a buried crater was found of the right size and supposedly at the right time to be the evidence needed.   I don't want to laugh because these are very serious sccientists and I do appreciate their way of thinking through their problem, bytut whehn I see these guys running their hands over two different layers of rock with a thin clay clay layer between them and talking about them as if the clay layer separates time periods o millions of years rathr than just two different sedimentary rocks one deposited on top of the other with a clay layer in betwween, I laugh, well not really, more likie I groan, it's so ....  silly.    But they are serious and my thinking it's silly isn't going to accomplish anythng.

Anyway I do very much appreciate getting to see the field evidence for the iridium layer that is the main evidence of a meteor impact they think killed the dinosaurs, and lots of other living things.  It was huge, the size of LMount everest, they say, and would have caused huge tsunamis and sent tones of vaporized debris into the atmosphere.  Vaporized.  OK, so the iridicum was vaporized.  Not sure what difference tht makes to this problem I'm thinking about but probably makes some for sure.  Anyway a big enough event certainly, if they are right, to split a supercontinent.

The iridium is found all over the planet at the KT boundary, between the Cretaceous and Tertiary rocks.  It's mixed with clay.  

Now pondering how the impact would have split the supercontinent, formed the Gulf o f the Americas and maybe contributed to the way North America and Europ are  farther west than SOuth America and Africa, although I've always thought that had more to do with the way the Earth spijns on is axis since it's basical above or below the Equator.

I've looked up maps but they are hard to see too of course, I need cleaearer and bolder lines to make things out, but I can see the general outlines of things.

So far this remains a hypothesis to keep thinking about.  I wish it explained the beginning fo  of the Flood but I still don't have a clue about what the fountains of the deep were.  Well, OK a clue or two but that's about all.

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Monday evening.  Found another video, long sequence of imaginative reconstruction of what supposedly happened to the dinosaurs during the meteor event, followed by some of the same scientific history I saw in the other video, and some warnings about how we have to take care of liing things because we are ow undergoing another big extinction eventy.  

Funny how these presentations can have so much obviously good scientific work about soething I know is false, but the work elps the creationist point of view in spite of their different bias.  However, the story is awfuly complicated and I don't have the time to learn enough about it to really get a handle on it.  Face it, I stick to the shallows of science, I make what I can of the information I can grasp and leave the heavy stuff to the guys who go and look at craters and volcaneoes and all that.  I'm a diletante ?  Maybe that's a fair enough workd.  I really like getting into this stuff but ...

Anyway, while they are talking about dinosaurs ding of the effects of a gigantic meteor hit, I'm thinking dinosaurs dead in the Flood but maybe that hit could explain some other things.  Yes, the moemvement of the continents for instance.  This video I just watched even mentions that the meteor would hae smashed into the earth's crust and affected the tectonic plate.  Hey, that's enough right there to make me happy for now.

I dunno, it's such a new idea to me I can't very well sit down on it as a certainty but it seems to have a lot going for it.

Funny they even talk about a regressio of sea level, something I hadn't heard about before from the conventional side of the argument, another interestingly Flood corroborating possibility .They didn't say wneough goto get an idea of how it playes out or where and all that.

Here's a thought that keeps swimming into my mind that's pretty far out but it swims in from time to time so tlet's at least say it.  That's the idea that the dinosaurs were not ccreated by God so that's why the Flood killed all of them.  There wouldn't have been any on the ark if that were the case.  Maybe there were and other things after the Flood killed them, sure, that's the usual idea, but they are such monsters I continue to wonder about this other idea.  From Genesis six we know that the "sons of God" or fallen angels, had children of human women who became giants or Nephilim.  Somehow they got throught the Flood and showed up in Canaan when the Israelites under Moses were exploring the land prior to entering it and scared them away, or some of them.  I'm not thinking of  something angelic mating with human reptiles but that just now occurred to me, since there are animal spiritual beings too, but maybe DNA tamperings which angels would have the intelligence for.   Yes totally outlandish.  Then I thought, what about theNeanderthals?  Could they be explained as  a breeding of humans with fallen angels somehow or maybe a DNA experiment infvolving some kind of "hominid?  Or even humanisth ape?  That's because I do not like Neantderthals and simply can't accept that they weree representatives of the human race after the fFLood foa any period of time.   Big problem for me and I havn't ahad any answer to it, so of course I tlike this one that just poppse dinto my mind.  Sort of like the Nephilim of dinosaur experiemnts or something like that, not fuly human but human enough to exhibit a lot of human traits.  Creepy idea.

Anyway, I think I'm going to let Chixalub the Meteor of Yucatan be my working explanation for what caused the great joly I've been seeing as the big eventy at the end of the Flood that started the continents moving apart, subducting as they pushed into the opposite ocean, triggering  volcanoes and earthqueakes and building all the mountains within a few short years following the Flood.

For now that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Tuesday evening.  Watching some You Tube videos about Wegener and continental drift.  He accepted the evolutionist's time table so all the evidence he brought to bear on his theory carries that presupposition.  So for intstandce the fossil evidenc ethat links the west coast of Africa with the east coast of South America he interprets aas evidence of lisving things that died at those locations.  Some of it is pretty striking, like one fresh water reptile found only in those two locations.  But of course I think Flood and what it means to me is that the Flood occurred before the supercontiennt broke awpart.  It is also evidence for Wegener's theory but from a different angleThe strata had already been laid down with their fossil contents before the breakup occurred.  

Then there are the matching mountains of eastern North America and western Europe, which he takes to have been one mountain range before the breakup, though I've been thinking in terms of their having been formed by the jolt that brought about the breakup, pushing the land masses apart and buckiling the mountains o both sides identially bevuae of the similar pressure exerted.    So I don't tsee this as evidence for Wegener, but what happened after the split.  Same tiwth glaciers which he finds matching up in Africa and South America.  I guess if the marks left by glaciers match up showing that the same glacial event procduced both the it would be evidence for his theory and I'd have to threthink my idea that the probably happened after the break up with I think of the ice age occuring after the Flood , soon after it, weven while it was draining away perhaps, but after the continents were separated enough for the glacial marks not to line up so perfectly.  however, all of this mmight have to be rethought.

Still no clear idea what caused the initial split that I speculate about above.  The Atlantic Ridge seems to be some kind of explanation but thgat seems like more effect of the split than cause, and I don't see the rising magma as exerting any pressure as it forms sea floor on iehter side of it.   I guess someone could change my mind about this.

Although I think there had to be an initial jolt that did the separating, the movement of the continents would also provide plenty of jolting as subduction gets started on the far side where they are being pushed into the Pacific and buckling mountains quite dramatically, setting off volcanoes and causing big earthquakes.  Lotta jolting going on there i a short period of time, and continuing  though in smaller doses after the first great upheaval.   

Which I guess COULD have been caused by Chixalub..  A metero is a bit more of a random event than I would have expected for such a momentous event but it's all foI've got for now.  I still want to account for what I see on cross sections  as a great jolt after the strata were all laid down and not before.    Seomthing that probably started the Flood's receding as well as all that rearranging of the land.

Tuesday night 

The ice age drew so much of the ocean water into ice that sea level drastically lowered and landbridges formed though I'm not clear between what land masses since nobody said that I remember hearing and I can't see if they were illustrated on the screen..   But I would think that those who have been trying to explain how animals dierged from the ark across the world, or I should say dispersed though they did both, would have considered these land bridges and I don't recall hearing that mentioned in creationist circles.  

When the idea of continental shelves occurred to me I thought that was a prettty good explanation but the land bridges are a similar way of explaining it.  I did know that sea level had dropped far enough for the shelves to be dry and traversible.  Maybe that's what they are actually talking about.  Anyway, especially if the continents weren't yet very far apart whifch they shouldn't have been on my scenario at least, such exposed land makes a good explanation for how living things got from one part of the world to another.  Especialy if you incluede other likeley helps such as greater vigor of plangs after the Flood, a carryove from the greater vigor before the Flood.  It wouldn't have lasted vry long, though maybe a few hundred years, as long as humans kept living to be over a hundred years old for instance, and that's long enoguht to be a lot of animlas across oceans that weren't quotite the huge oceans then that they are dtoday.   Not just the plants but the animals themseles should ahve retained that pre Flood vigor from the earlier evironment.  humans did acccording to scriputre so should everthing else.

Funny how a creationist has to keep doublethinking everything presented on these subjects by the conventional evolutionist mentality.  Why did all the megafauna of the Pleistocene die out?  Well probably the change in climate and the rise of the humanoids.  Golly gosh, looks to me like it was the Flood that killed them all.  And the humanoids too, including the Neanderthals whatever they may turn out to be in the end.  If you are a creationist who believes the Flood ended before the Pleistocene then you thijnk both the giant aimals and the humanistsh creatures came off the ark.  Withou considering the eirdness of that possibility I just continue with my doggedly simpleminded notion that if they are found in fossilized form in side a layer of sedimentary rock that lookcs like all the other rocks of the Geologic column, then it was killed in the Flood.   Yeah I know it's simplemeinded.  But all the other possibilities seem ....  impossibler.

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Beginning to realize I shouldn't be going about this the way I am, allowing myself to post so much half baked stuff.  Keeping a log of my thought process as it were seemed like a good idea in a way but now I think it's just irresponsible of me.  When I find ou I had the wrong information it's just boring to have to review all the steps I had to go through to undo it and then find myself with another sest of wrong information to undo anyway.  Qell, when I finally stop working on this post I'll try to get more responsible.

Right now I want to resport that I realize that the land bridge they've been talking about is between Siberia and North America in ALaska or somewhere up there.  I think the creationist guys did gcover that come tot think of it.  Caused by the gathering up of the water into the ice of the ide age.  But then that is also what I discovered about the cotinental shelf idea, that they too were exposed by the ice age.  

What I should do at this point is try to covert all those millions and multiple thousands of years into reasonable creationist time so I can get an idea of how what the sceintists are discovering about the ice age really did do somethig real related to creationist questions.  But the time factor is a big imediment at the moent.

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Before Let's Talk Creation caputred my attention I hadn't done much thinking about the ice age after the FLood at all, a little but not much.  I'd seen a vew videos and tried to figure out how it might have developed and when and came up with some ideas but I never focused much on it.  Now because they spend time on the end of the Flood and where to place its boundary, and the human types associated with that time period and have theories of their own I'm wishing I'd spent more time on it and now have littleopportunity to find out a lot of things I'd like to know.

I've been watchig videos that are of course all fro the evolutionist mindset and need rethinking I'm not in agood enough position to do well.  Then I've been regarding the Cenozoid strata as all Flood caued and Todd and Paul see them as post Flood so I can't count on their thinking to help me with mine.

I never spent any time grappling with the fossils found in the strata of thge recent time periods so I'm learning now that they are full of those giangantic heavily furred creatures also heavily horned and fanged and tusked, and been listening to the evolutionisst reimaginiings of how they had evolved over thousands and thousands of years for this or that purpose related to a long long long idce age or series of icea  ages.  All this needs a LOT of rethinking.  Sigh.

One thing keeps coming up in these videos about the ice age and that is the exposed land bridges.  Now it seems all the continents were connetected by dry land through these extensive bridges, well after the supercontinent had separated.  If the animals were dispersiong fro the ark dureing the idce age this would be how they got all over the world, but I have a lot of thinking to do to figure out what timing makes most sense to me.

Rules for Rhinking, Charlie Kirk, Iran, Pope as Antichrist,

 Bret and Heather of Dark Horse Podcast, or at least Bret, apparently considers it a possibility that Charlie Kirk might have been he victim of a conspiracy rather than just a lone gunman, and they discuss the reasioning for this and similar ideas on their most recent show.  They want to lay out rules for thinking about such things and not so much the arguments for any particular point of view so I end up wondering what their arguments are for a conspiracy.  Clearly it's not an impossisbility but pretty unlikely so I'd need to hear their evidence.  To mmy mind there were so many of Charlie's friends standing with him i their tent area and saw what happened from behind at least, and rasied no doubts themselves aobut it that I don't see anything in the shot itelsef that could have been evidnece against a lone gunman.  I certainly don't see any reason to doubt ay of his friends as I heard a lot of discussion from all of them over the next couple of weeks and their sincerity is just not questionable to my mind.   Again, not impossible I suppose but DSO unlikely.    The level of cleverness needed to pull of any treachery from within that group is just behond ordinary talents among other things.

then ther is this weird idea they don't themeslves hold but is an idea some apparently do hold, that Valley college where the assassination occurred is laid out like a pentagram which is an occultic or stataic symbol and that points to something of a conspiracy too although I don't think he said anything to explain how.   So they were disucssiong how you might follow rules for thinking about such things to keep you from gross errors and keep the doror open on ideas that may seem reote to you but end up being the truth.  OK, although I found most of the discussion pretty boring, sorry to say.  If such rules could be established I certainly wouldn't want to start my thinking with a review of them, I'd want to think it through and then  mayb review my thought porrocess against them to see if I wentoff track.  I guess I could see that as a practical use for it bu still I don't tlike the idea of laing out a list of rules like that.  GFor one thing how do ou know you've arrived at the right collection of rules anyway?  Oh well.  

But I wans thinking abou tthis pentagram idea.  Apparently the geographic layout of the land isn't a really great pentagram shape but some take it that way anywya.  But what I would ask which isn't what Bret was asking, is whetyher Vallye College is known for its satanic or demonic incidents or at least for people thinking there are many incidents that should be thought of that way?  If the murder of Charlie Kirk is the only one where that symbolic shape is applied, forget it, if the pentagram means anythihjg it means it for all the time the college has occupied land of that shape.  It would have to have a reputation for such things for it to have any bearing on the Charlie Kirk murder.    That should be on his list of rules somewhow.

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Changing the subject, I think I might add a few things to the post where I said I was only going to say what I said and nothing more about he Mark Levin accusations of Tucker Carlson.  Levin is the one who quoted Thomas Sowell fomr a decade or so aboutago about the importance of the US taking out Iran's nuclear capacity, and then I happened to hear Douglas Murray on Uncommon Knoweldge recently saying the same thing and thow e two are completely trustworthy observers to my mind so I was hapy to make them enough of a reason to oppose Carlson's suspicious that Israel had somehow forced Trump into the attack on Iran.  I'd thought that was clearly false anyway but Sowell and Murray made good corroboration for mte.  Now I'll add that Levin played clips of cofour Democrats who are now saying the same thing Carlson said, or at least saying that the action against Iran is just wrong, who over the last four years all said separately that we need to take down Iran's nuclear capacity.  Funny how the Democrates change their minds  jus because they don't like GTrump.  They agreed with him about all kinds of things over the years that now all of a sucdden they condemn him for.  Anyway, that adds four names to my two who strongly called for a US President to remove the threat of Iran's nuclear capacbility.      Six is better than two althoughj my original two were strong enough to bmmy mind.

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The Pope once dominated kings and already is acting like he has a right to criticize our President concerning illegal immigration and the Iran war.  He doesn't have the power at the moment to do a lot about it but he does happen to be a world class voice even now and if prophecy is right as I read it he is going to be once again the rule oer of knings and all world leaders for a seve year period before Jesus retursn, and yes, that has felt very close for a long time abut all that means is that it is closer yet.  Could happen anyway that the clock will start tivcking onthe last seven years before the world ends, he world as we know it.   The trigger will be the Antichrist's making of a covenant, or "confirming" of a covenant with Israel, which he will breatk half way through those seven years, which is where those crucial numbers come from, twelve hundreed and sixty days, forty two months, time , times and half a time.   Those last three and ahlaf years are knownas the Great Tribulation and no, youj don't want to be here for that. Well, it might be better than Hell, so rethinkik all that first.

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Prophet Joel confirms for me that it is the Seventh Seal of the Book of Revelation that is the beginning of the tribultion perio d of sevewn years, otherwise known as the Seventieth Week of Daniel, Week meaning year in this conctencxt.  That seventieth week was never fulfilled though all sixty nineof the weeks prophesided in Daniel were fulfilled right to the entering of Jerusalem by Jesus on the donkey.   After that the seventieth just hasn't occurrted.   YOu olook throughout history of it iand it isen't there.  Therefore it has to beyet future and most Protestants findit in the book of revelation.  I differ from tjhe usual idea about it in that I don't think the first five seals are to be included in that period of time, and I think the sixth seal is an announcewment of what is coming, and then the last seven years begins with the opening of the seventh seal, which has all the language of wrath that is lacking oin the first seals.    That's my own reading and I have no idea how many others might be with me or against me in this.  But the Protphet Joel describes the day of the lord as a horrific time of csuffering including for the cattle who find their grass all burned up.  The burning up of the grass is the first trumpet to sound in the seventh seal.  

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As a believer in God, the biblical God and Christ, I now have a hard time sympathizing with those who don't believe, it is all so obvious to me.   Of course I too was once in that same posistion.  I couldn't believe.  And sometimes I wanted to believe, I just had no idea how to go about it.  It nenver occurred to me just to read the Bible, stupid.  Or rad some Christian books, stupid.  I heard nothing but the weird liberalish reinterpretations of Chrsitainity that were once popular in college town people of the sort I hung out with.  The kind of people who went to the Unitarian Church which isno church at all but a sort of philosophical political and of course liberal indoctrination milieu.    Read real Chistian books.  Tozer is one although he's really for believers, not sure what an unbeliever could do with him.  Come to think of it any book I could reccomment would be for believers, for the born again, and since you need to be born again to understand the thigs of God maybe it is all useless for anyone else.   Ryle is another one, Edwards, Spurgeon, even a couple of mthe muystics although I hesitate with them and mention them only bevcause tozer also like s them.  Molinos and Julian of Norwish are maybe trustworthy enough, maye even Madame Guyon.  But when they get into Mary bewyond a mere metion that's where I stop, and none of them give a really clear statemewnt of the salvation message.  Oh Tersteegen, he's anothernhr I think really can be recommended.  I can't find his books in audible form unfortuantely for me.

About he Antichrist, reald Dave Hunt's  A WQoman Rides the Beast.  Also H Grattan Guinness  Romanism and the Reofrmation.  Guineness regfjects all furturism so I'm against him on that, but Hunt retjects the idea of the Pope as ntichirst so I'm against him on that.    But either one gives a solid picture of how the Roman Church is not Christianity.  And the Papa

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And yes the US is unders God's judgmetn and I still don't see anything eer liikely to be done about it and that means we're going down eventually, mabye about the time of the beginning of the Great Tirbulation.cy.

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How LIttle We KNow God, Even We WHo Believew

 It is all too easy, at least for me, to go through Christian life with a strange dullness or emptiness about the truths of our supposed faith, about Jesus who is the center of it all, about God Himself who ought to be the object of such awe and fear and gratitude and joy that the very thought of Him should take our breath away.  But no, too ooften there is a dullness, a distractedness a big nothingneess.  And only nowand then, such as for me right now, the last few days or so, a recognition of how wrong this is, a wondering about why it is, and an ateempt to come to a realistic feeling and knowledge of what are really the most amazing things in this world.

From time to time I try to renew my  original hristian excitement, those days when the idea of God was new to me and staggeringly prsent and real and breathtaking.  I go back to some of the books that hold that perspective and used to be able to kindle it in me.  Even now they can but not as mucsch as  they could years ago..  It is a great loss.  Of course they always tell you it's not possible to expect to always have mountain highs in the Christian life, you must come back to earth.  But do we alwaYS HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS DULLNESS?    I'm nso disappointed in myself that this happens ove and over again and efforts to renew my orighinal zeal and passion just don't do it any more.    I've fallen so many times back into the flesh, even at times into pretty horrendous zin, perhaps theLord just insn't ogoint to let e come back in trhis life.   But I'm trhing again, I'm praying that He will give me a right response to knowledge of Him.  A right response, not the abstracteddullness of mind that He certainly doesn't deserve and certainly doesn't do anything fo rmy spiritual life.

Paul and Todd of Let's Talk Creation this week did a show on theology and had a guest who ws very inspiring, a Judd Dabis, who is one of those rare people who know the Bible so well he knows it in both original languages and knows it on more than one level.  He describes frustrations in his learly Christian life with churches that didn't teach the whole Bible and he acquired a real desaire to know the origianl languages.  That's rare.  I now many want to learn those languages but I don't think I've ver heard anyone talk about such a craving to know them as this man describes.  To be BLE TO         to know God's word as it was originallyh written, and know it well.  And by now he says he's read through the Old Testament in Hebrew maybe a hundred times, and the New Testament in Greek thousands of thiimes.     It was an inspiring show for me and helps to keep me on the scurrent path of trhying to renew my own Christian life, again, for the zillianoth time.  

But I still go for certain books, and always A W Tozer is at the top of my list.  The Pursuit of God, God's Puruist of Man, and now I'm listening through The Knowledge of the HOly, in wqhich he takes one of God's attributes and makes a chapter of it and succeedss in making it relevant to ordinary daily human life on this fallen world.   

Of all things how can God becom boring?  He is so high above us and so out of reach or so it seems, I guess that's why.  Bug Tozer brings Him into focus in this book i such a way that it really does  cause me to have more of that right response to Him that I've been praying for.    

Sometimes it seems heaven will just be boringly endless if all it is is worshiping bGOd, but a book like this makes the worship of God seem like the only thing a human being hould ever want to do, endlessly exciting endlessly fed by new knowledge of Him, knoqwledge to which there can literally be no end.  

I often feel sorry for people who don't beliee.  My efforts at evangelism are not very effective and I guess I have only myslef to blame, but nevertheless I still feel sorry for those who don' believe.  What they are missing, and I think that even when I mhyself am missing so much as I've deascribed above.   But hey have no idea.  No idea.  No idea.  Even the barest knowledge of the truth is so amazing it takes the breath awa.   For years, even at my lowest spiritual level I've been able go siply open the Bible and be filled with a peace that takes all the kinks out of my tensed muscles.  Or when I hear it read or uotesd, or even somethiges when someone like Tozzer shows me a new perspective on Him.  Just that wave of peace coming over me is a great gift of God, based on my siply acceptance of His sacrifice to pay for my wsins, .  Just knowing that brings the new borth and the new birth is the regeneration of the spiritual faculty we lost at the Fall, wen Adam and Eve disobeyed God and punged their posterity into the darkness of his current world.    God is such an enrapturing object in HImself just the tiniest taste of Him through the renewed spirit is all it takes for the psalmist to say As the edeer panteth after the water brooks so paneteth my soul after Thee.  

I'm no good at writing aout these things.  I want to but I'm just not good at it.

All I'm going to say about Mark Levin versus Tucker Carlson

Bothj Thomas Sowell and Douglas Murray at different times but begore the recent atatack on Iran begnan, said it was of crucial importance for the security of the United States that we take out their ability to have nuclear weapons, and I think but don't remember clearly, they or one of them may ahve said, take out the currentIslamist regime.   Those two are enough to persuade me that Carloson is wrong.  

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A great throng even stands in the rain and cheers when the Anitchrist appears ot his window.  He expressed s concern about the war in the Middle East.  So many people suffering.  There's nothing good or necessary about it.  He opposes those who are responsible for it.  He doesn't need to name them.   Nobody appreciates just what a power this man is, this antichrist.  A Christian leader.  The world has no sense of history, not even the Protestants who of all people should know.  They don't.   He will walk us to the Great Tribulation hen he will reign again oer the world as he did in the temillennium up to the Reformation, and still does in the shadows, but not even in the showdows.  Watch, he still is a world power, not the one he wants to be and once was but still he sis and again will be not too far in the future.   But this is just Catholic bashing.  No it is a warning to Catholics to leave him and his institutuio.  He ran the world once and will again at the end.  Then Jesus will retrn and destroy him but he will do a lot of damage before that happenes.    Transubstantiation?  I don't know.  More like the mark of the beast will be the reason people die for Christ this time.

It should concern us but it is hardly noticed by most.   And I still have to point out that Americ a is under God's judgment and however glad I am for Trump's presidency and the work he is doing, as long as nothing is done about the reasons we are hjunder judgment it can't last.  Nbody takes God into account except to foolishly expect Him to be on our side no matter what.      Roe v WaDE  was taken out of the national category and put back on the states but it is still killing babies for America and even more than it used to.  It's still pulling down God's wrath on us.  Is anyubody paying attention?  ANybody?  What about gay marriage?  Anybody realizing how juch wrath that is provoking?   So many other violations, the list is long, but just take those two.  They need to go if America is to be safe, but they won't be taken away so we aren't safe.  And the Tribulation is coming for nthose who aren't in Christ.  And things just aren't good no matter how much good there may be if you look from certain angles.

Sleepy church, confused church, apostate church, 

Catastrophic Plate Tectonics

 With a big enough sheet of paper, and a bold enough pen I was able to do some calculations I should have done for the previous post.  I say there that at the rte of subduction supposed to be as much as meters per second North America and Asia would have come within hailing distance within the year of the Flood.  But that is apparently a big underestimation of the numbers if my current calculations are correct.

What I get if I call meters per second three meters per second, is a mobvement of the North American continent at a rate of one hundred and sixty one miles PER DAY.    I had to do this more than once and ask my little friend Alexa for her calculations as well but that's what I end up tgetting and at that rate  North America would have bashed into Asia after about two and a half months of travel across the Pacific.   The total travel time for a year comes out to over  58,000  miles which is something like fife times the greatest width of the Pacific.  

Is this what the CPT people think or am I getting somethig very wrong here?  Do they think the continents bashed together like that after traveling ast such a high rate of speed?  And what then?  In the Atlantic the splitting of the original continent is what brought  about the Atlantic ridge which creates new sea floor as the continents move apart.  There's no breaking apart to be done on the Pacific side and I'm not even sure what would cause the continents to spearate again after crashing into each other.   Also, as that was happening, closing up twelve thousand miles of Pacific Ocean that is, the Atlantic would ahve to be expanding by that same amount, some disix thousand iles on either side of the ridge.  Could the magma welling up create sea floor basalt at that rate?  I don't know, wmaybe it could.  

But I con't know what the whole CPT model is.  It hasn't really been spellied out on Wood and Garner's podcast, or in Garner's book, sjust roughly indicated.  hat I'm coming up with may not be anything ike what they came up with and I hE NO WAY OF KNOWING.  I wish that caps lock key would just disappear, I guess I hit it from time to time without noticing and so I have no idea how long it was on.  Sorry.

Anyway, this whole CPT scenario has me utterly flummoed and skeptical.  If all that bashing occurred I don't see how the Geologic Column had  could have formed with any regularity at all.  The jolting of subduction alone triggers volcanoes and earthquakes, and yet the column is intact in some places and blocks of it intact here and there as well.  I also don't see how it could have matched up so ewell across the Atlantic ocea as it does if all that activity was going on as well as the gulf wideing at a uge rate daily.

My own model is based on a mere cross section.  Laugh away.  It is corroborated by some other observations however.  But the cross section clearly whshows that tectonic activity started afer all the strata were in place.   That's why I came up with the idea of one gigantic jolt at the end of the flood, just before it started draining and probably the cause of its draining.  It would have to have somehow created the space for the water along with the breaking up of the supercontinent, somehow dropping the level of the ocean floor?   

It would be nice to have someone to talk to about all this who inows a lot oabout it.  

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Later:..    Always something I get wrong.  SIgh.  I gave the widg of the Pacific Ocean as twelve thousand miles.  That's the width TODAY.  But at the time of the splitting of the supercotinent and drifting of the current continents its width would ahve been that plus the curent width of the Atlant ciic Ocean which I thinki is around three tousand miles?  Maybe more like 3500.  Guess I'll ahve to chekc when I have the opportunity.    So fifteen thousand or more miles but that isn'tgoing to make a differnce in the basic scenario as the continents ware still goig to travel falset eough to bash into each other in a few months.    

Later yet.  Double Sigh.  Another correctrion.  When I first asked Alexis the width of the Pacific Ocean she gave me twelve thousand miles and I didn't stop to realize that she must be talking about a distance tbetween maybe Australia or the Pacific Islands or something and SOUTH America rather than North America beause that distance is just too much.   Sigh.  So I asked again.  Btween Asia and North America, I said, and got somethijng under six thousand miles.    

Half the distance I'd hd in mind earlier.  So now the contnetns would have been crashing into eafch other in a little over a monthj rather than two and a half months.    Again it doesn't make much sidfferntce to the overall point but I do want to try to get things right.

Book by Paul Garner, The New Creationism

 This bok has been on my list for a while and I finally got around to listening to it.  Just finished it.  It's a good book, nicely written.  I enjoyed it the way I enjoyed the podcast by Garner and Wood when I started listening to it.  It comgrs all the ain creationist issues and I discover yet again that on my own I discovered most of th creationist angles on them.  It's fun to find out that I think like a creationist.  That is, I'm nnot just some lone woldf crackpot going off on my own weird tangents.

Nevertheless there are as it turns out a few issues where I'm at odds with the mainstream of creationist thinking.  I still think the diversitfication problem is not that much of a problem and doesn't need any fancy solutions, that the most natural way it would have happened --  thinking now of how the animals and humans disperesed to all parts of the glob e after getting off the ark --all that needs to happen to get different versions of a creature, different varieties, different races which is the scientific term for them, is for smallish groups of them to get isolated from one another and interbreed only among their own group for many dgenerations.  Depending on how large the origknal group was it swill take more or less time to get the whole group sharing a general appearance that difers from all the other groups of that Kind.

Paul in his book describes his himself bvery briefly, calling it genetic drift, in relatio to the human populations as they spread out and founded what everntually gecame tribes and nations.  So we got a whole variety of Europeans, all looking sort of similar to each other but also different, a whole slew of Africans looking siilar to each other but each one group having its own characteristics that differentiate it from the others, same with the Middle Eastern groups and the Asian groups.  There are in one sense lots and lots of races around the world.

It's all a function of the way the genome is costructed, the many genes that have two alleles being the main engine of variation.  It's an incredibly ingenious system.  Genes for many different traits having three modestwo homozygous, one dominant, one recessive, and one heterozygous.  That's all it takes to produce a great variety of varietiy as it were.  And some traits are governed abby more than one gene so the variations can get quite refined.  

And all it takes for variations to show up in the outward appearance of the creature is sexual recombination of these genetic possibilities over some number of generations.   Every population that splits off from a larger popualtion, OK call it daughter population from parent population, carries in its individual members a different percentatge of alleles for all its traits than the original population or any of the other populations.  All it takes its that different percentage of possibile combinationtes to bring out  different characteristics from the other populations.    And it can happen veryh fast, a matter of how manhy generations are needed to get the whole range of possibilities sexually recominaed.

The Pod Mrcaru lizards started out with five male and female pairs, brought by scientists from the mainland to be isolated on a nearby island, for which they didn't retrun for thirty years.  At which time they found the lizards having grown to a vwry large popuation all with the characteristics that differ from the parent population in having larger heads, stronger jaws and eating tougher kinds of food.  Id discussed this in an earlier posyt.  My guess is that if they'd returns after only ten years they would have found this change already characterizing the new population.  Twenty anyway.  IThere's no reason why it woushooluld take a long time.  With only ten individuals to start the poiupulation it should ahve taken only a few years to bring out changes, esepecially since I've found out that lizard females may lay up to twenty eggs at one time and do it three times a yearr.  That's fast population grown and fast sexual recombination of the genet frequencies.

But I didn't want to talk about that.  Why did I/  Oh well.  What I wanted to talk about was Paul Garner's chapter on Catastrophic Plate Techtonics, which is the current model of how the Flood of Noah played out.  I had trouble with this idea when they presented it on their podcast, and I'm having even more trouble with it as he lays it out in this book.

I can't trust myself to get this all right but I'll do my best.   He seems to be saying that it all started with subduction, the movement of sea floor under the edge of a continent and down into the mantle of the Earth.  I don't get how it could ahve started with subduction because I think of subduction as what ahappens when the contiewntn has been forced into the sea floor, pushed into tiit.  It's  hard to think of how subjduction could have begun without the movement of the continent and that's what needs ewxplanation, how the continent got moving in the first place.  

He did talk about the Foundtains of the Deep with is the scriptural description of the first thing that happened to get the Flood going, the breaking up of the fountains of the deep.  But he also describes them as scattered over the surface of the Earth, which makes no sense if they are really of the deep, which means I would suppose, at the bottom of the oceans, not on the surface of the Earth.    So that flummoxed me too.

He talks aboiut subduction as becoming a runaway process, speeding up due to tempaerature changes brought about by the friction of the movement and characteristics of the eart's mantle.  OK, but if it's moving so fact, and he says  it gets up to meters per second of subduction, then the continent ti sea floor is subducting under is also moving very cfast across the expance of the ocean.  Right/  As I understand it, subduction occurs at the west edge of the Americas as they are moving into the Pacific ocean.  I don't know if the eastern edge of Asia is also subducting, it seems maybe it is since the movement would be eastward for that continent, and that means the two contiennts would be moving very fast toward each other across the PaCIFIC OEAN, BEING WITHIN N HAILING DISTANCE AS IT WERE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS OR SO.  aFTER THE fLOOD WAS OVER WSINCE THAT ONLY TOOK A EYYEAR BUT .  ok SO AT THE END OF THE fLOOD THE SUBDUCTION WOULD AHVE STOPPED BUT STILL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DISTANCE COVEREDAT METERS PER SECOND AND WOULDN'T THAT     means that the continents were much closedr to gether than they actualy are today?

Also he talks about how the Atlandtic Ridge is "replacing" ocean floor.  But no, there was no ocean floor there originally, what it is doing is creating ocean floor.  The Atlantic ocean was created by the breaking up of the original single supercontinent, which I thought was called Pangaea but Garner calls it in his book Rodinia.  In any case that original continent was split into the Americas on the west and Earup, Africa and Asia on the East, the Atlandtic Ridge being the line where magma rises from the mantle and spreads to east and west of the ridge to form ocean floor of basalt as it cools.   

I appreciate the idea that basalt would have been warmer and ride hjigher on the mantle than colder sea floor would and could br an explanation for how sea water got bpushed up over the continents.  The problem with that is that the same thing isn't happeneing in the Pacific Ocean.  There is no subduction in the Atlantic because there is no old sea floor to subduct, but it   beasdues the direction of movmenet being in the wrong directio, but in the Pacific subjection is what is happening to the original sea floor and there is nothing to replace it on that dside of the contentn.    There is no ridge there with magma welling up to create new sea floor and besides there is no place for it to create it anyway.  I'm not sure how the cvolcanic acativity that created the Hawaiian Islands is explainsed in realtion to the subduction and the movement of the continents.

On his model the Flood came to an end when the new basalt ocean floor cooled and dropped to a lower level, proving space for the water over the contnents to drain.  But thjaathat's only one cocean where that would have been occurring, or maybea other oceans are doing the same but not the Pacific.  

jSomething is Wrong with This PIcture and I can't figure it out.  If I'm seeing it wrong I'd like to understand how.    To this point I'd been objecting to descriptions of the tectonic movement during the Flood being quite violent which I figured would ahve made it impossible for the Geologic Column to form as neatly as it appears to have done as seen int eh GFrand Canyon area and in core samples from various places.  

Oh another thing is if the movement of the continents was happening during the Flood the fact that we have identical strata and fossil s on both sides of the Atlantic wouldn't have formed, eouwoultd it/  There is no ievidenc t evidence that I know ifof of strata with fossils in the order of teh Geologic Columm being laid down on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean, to cross the ocean snd continue on the opposite continent.  

I think this post must be a particularly messy one with typos because that's how it feels under my fingers and I really wish I had a way to wcorrect it but all I can say is sorry and hope it doesn't making reading impossible.

  So I'm flummoxed about all this and would send it to Paul Garner for his explanations except that when I've sent things to those guys they don't respod, at least about my own theories, and he's busy and I don't want to do it that way.    Maybe I'll send him a link eventially and find out if he has anything to say then.  Or maybe somebody else who understands this stuff will answer.  Thank you whoever you are if you do.

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Later.  It occurred to me that if both Asia and the Americas are subducting sea floor at such a high rate as meters per second that they would have been laterally pushig the water up over the land, a differnt way of flooding than the rising of the basalt wsea floor in the atlandts c which is apparently the catastrophic plate tectonics explanation.  but if you want to get the land flooded why not take whatever you can get.   

I still don't know what the fountains of the deep were or area.  I don't think it could be explainaed by the guysers Gardner describes as occurreing when the rising magma at the Atlantic ridge meets the cold sea ater.  Whtever happened scripture describes the fountains of the deep as occurring just abouit simultaneously with the opening of the windows of heaven which started the forty tdays and night of rain.  Sometimes I think maybe they need to rethink the canopy idea because some source of water above is sorely needed for the asscribtural description to work.  

Whatever the fountains of the deep areae they must b water.    That's how the word fountains is always used I think.  Something causing the sea floor or Warth's crusst to break up in the oceans is what seems to be meant.  Water beneath the floor?  It's been suggested somewhere.  Then the sea floor would eventually sink back to a lower level as that chambeaer beneath it was emptiesd.  Or something like that.  But it would explain the flood's coming to an end and the water having a place to go.

I've soetimes wondered if the great heat generated by the flood and the tectonic movement wouldn't have been some of the expalnation for the reduction in the amount of water as i wuld have radiated furiously into space, espcially if there were no atmosphere there aft erher Flood to be a barrier.  THe atmosphere would have rebuilt itself slowly afte rthe Flood as water evaporated with less heat.  

Oh, one more thing I just remembered.  I had written to the Let's Talk Creation site about maybe udoing a podcast on the standard timing of evens around the period of the Exodus in the BIble as I'm aware of the film and thinking of DVID rOHL WHO CHALLENGES THE STANDARD TIMING WHICH petty much eliminates the biblical account.  He gives new evidence which brings it\\the archaeological and biblical accounts closer together, validating the biblical description of events.  Todd Wood answered my query that there are other studies of that time period that also find more correspondence with the blibical account and yes he's aware of David Rohl's work on it, and why don't we just leave it to the experts, and besides it's not really within the range of topics they want to discucuss on their creationist podcast.    Well, but Paul Garner mentions it in one of his chapters of his book so sorry but it is within the range of topics you could discuss there.  Iit's about validating the bilbical timeline in general which is of course pertinent to the creationist endeavor.  Grner doesn't mention Rohl, I jus happen to be rafamiliar with his stuff but I'd be happy to hear a discussion of all the different reworiings of the time line.