Liberal friend asks if I'd agree that both sides spin the news to suit our political position and that accounts for a lot of our insbility to agree on facts. I'm not sure abourt the last part of that, I'm gusessing about that part, but she did seem to expect me to agree that both sides spin the facts to suit our political views.
Well, I don't agree but I can aoncede that since we view the news through our particular poitical lenses that our political opinion s are going to shape it and color it even to the point sometimes that it is hard to recognize eachothers' s poisition it's so different from our own . Sometihing like that. But no, if we're talking about spin no, the right does not spin in the sense of manipulating facts to create a particular impression such as I was trying to show in the examples I gave in the previous post. That is not just the news freighted with a political viewpoint, it's the news altered by intention to make something apprear to be the case which is not the case. In those examples , at leats the first two of them, the news was specifically manipulated to make Trump look bad, make him out to be sympathetic to neo Nazis, make him out to be the sort of crude person who would mock a man's disability. that's not ordinarly political coloration, that's outright lying to destroy a person.
In the Gerlge Floyhd example, thebelief that he was killed by racist politic led to rioting that destroyed cities and nobody saw fit to try to stop it. If anybody knew about the tony timpa case, a white man who was killed in eaxactly the same way as Floyd was, it was kept from the public. It is still kept from the public. You have to go out of your eway to find it. he was treated to exactly the same police manuever, he also kept protesting that he couldn't breathe, and after eleven minutes you can hear on the audio as he exhales his last breath. After which they frantically try to revive him but it's too late.
At least the public should be wmade aware of the Tony Timpa case but that isn't happening and I guess it won't because the media are in service to eh Left which doesn't want to have a democracy in whicdh all sides get heard and the truth is allowed to come out, they want a totalitarian regime in which we all bow to leftist policieeds and the media are servicing that aim. even though there are lots of good conservatives tgalking on the radio and in podcasts and through good organizations and publicastions, their point of view is never allowed to spread to the public at large. All they ever get is leftist spin, real spin, real lying manipulating spin.
the eorge Floyd case gets even more complicated as there is some good evidence that he didn't die of the police manuever at all, but of overdosing on some heavy drugs. he was already complaining that he couldn't believe before he was put into that manuever. Certainly we could regard the decidsion to treat him that way as a great error of judgment at least, but apparently he was hard to restrain and bad decisions were made. I don't know the whole story but apparently it is now told in a fiolm titled The Fall of Minneapolis.
In aycase Derek Chauvin is not guilty of murder or even manslaughter. He was following police procedsures and mistakes don't get you imprisoned for murder or manslaughter in a normal functioning justice system. Which we no longer have.
As often happenes I managed not to talk about what I started out to talk about but I guess I can start on that here. I didn't know much about the E Jean Carroll case yesterday, and I'm very li.klely getting her name wrong beause I konly know it by how it sounds since I can't read it. I still don't know the whole story but I now know that this defamation he was charged with , Trump I mean of course, was calling her a liar and insisting he isn't guilty of what she accused him of. Now THAT is a miscarriage of justice. Good grief if you can't protest that you're not guilgty and the accuser is lying there is nothing canyone can safely say in this country any more. I'm sure this must be the only time in the history of the planet that chargeds of defamation were brought against someone for saying that, the whole thing should have been thrown out of court bwfore it got to the doorway.
I was also ruminating about my liberal friend's complaint that Trump was behving like a child in the courtroom. Well, OK, that speaks to his personality and many people don't like his personality. The Guy from Queens is one way that \\\\ he gets described, which I surmise describes a rather crude or impuslive personality or something like that? I don't know. But in any case it's personality and when you start talking about his personality you've left the topic of justice. Well, is the complaint that he's flouting the law or that he is behaviorng like a child? I guess you can object to both but rally not in the same breath if you want to make a point about what's going on with him.
It's possible that quite a bit of Trump's personality is what epopel turn into a criminal mindset or something like that? I can't fathom what they are doing with Trump. He's no fascist but they insist he is. Just the usual leftist following of the instruction manual which tells them to acuse the opposition of what they are guilty of? That's how I tend to read it. Because they are the ptotalitairans, not Trump. They are the destroyers of democracy, not Trump. they are the ones who have censored conservativeas who simply hold opinions they disagree with. That's totalitarianism. The right doesn't do that sort of thing. Yell and scream and call the Left names sometimes, yes, but actually try to censor them, no, actually lie about them, no. there's no need, they are objectionable enough just as they are. Ha Ha.
Mark Levin hade Matt Tyobe on his show this evening, and I'm sure I'm mangling that name for the same reason I mangled Carroll's, I'm just going by how it sounds. Tyobe is the man who exposed the twitter fils about all the censorship of poolitical positions the Left doesn't like. He's recently exposed a group who are plotting to bring down the next election by various means jut as they brought down the previous one. As Trump keeps saying,
THIS IS NO LONGER AMERICA.
I still ponder how it might be possible to have a real discussion with liberals. I'm told it's not possible, give it up, they don't want to talk, they want to hold onto their opinions no matter what, partly because they reall y do believe you have nothing to say anyway. But I go on daydreaming. And I'm pretty sure I know how it should be done procedurally.
A bigproblem I fun into with liberal friends is getting rushed, trying to say too much, trying to say something when I'm not ready to say it and hevaveln't had time to think it all through. The time has to be made to think it throutgh. No more than one issue at a time should be brought up for discussion and it should be discussed in calm orgiving tones on both sides,k but at least on the conservative side. Gerting frantic and anxious is an enemy to making any headway at all. If it needs to take dayhs or weeks, then so be it, but maybe a few hours or less is all some issues would need. but it woulde hve to be throughouthly pursued so that both sides know that what they think about it is ver y clear.
Tha's pretty much what I said a couple posts down too.
The way things are going, though, it's probabsly a lost cause. We're coming down to the very end and the return of Christ and any victories at this late date would no doubt be very short lived. But then, I don't know, we don't know when the EndTimes are going to unforld with an;y certainty and we have to keep busy at our calling in any case.
