Friday, August 30, 2024

ok, hERE'S hOW i eXPLAIN THE eVENTS ON THAT cROSS sECTION

 yES IT STARTS WITH THE WORLDWIDE fLOOD OF nOAH.  PICTURE NOTHING FOR STARTERS JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER TO BUILD UP THE SCENARIO.  tHEN PICTURE THE STRATA ALL LAID OUT FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE FRAME TO THE TOP, ALL NEATLY STRAIGHT AND FLAT AND UNDISTURBED.   i'M NOT SURE HOW THE STRATA WERE ALL DAID DOWN BY THE fLOOD, MAYBE SOME CREATIONISTS HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.  ITHER SESDIMENTS PRECIPITATED OUT OF THE STANDING WATER AT SOME POINT OR WAVES WASHED UP OVER THE LAND, LADEN WITH THE SEPARATE SEDIMENTS ONE AFTER ANOTHER.  PERHAPS BOTH METHODS OCCURRED.

JbUT AT SOMNE POINT THEY AWERE ALL LAID DOWN AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY TO A DEPTGH OF ABOUT THREE ILES IN THE gRAND cANYON AREA, JUDGING FROM CLUES ON THAT CROSS SECTION.  

tHEN, AFTER THEY WERE ALL IN PLACE, SOME GREAT UPHEAVAL OCCURRED.  tHE fLOOD MAY YHAVE BEGUN TO ABATE, OR PERHAPS IT WAS THIS GREAT DISTURBANCE THAT BETGAN ITS ABATEMENT, i'M NOT SURE HOW TO THINK ABOUT THAT.  bUT THE TWO EVENTS PROBABLY HAPPENED MORE OR LESS IN THE SAME MOMENT OF TIME.  pROBABLY THE DISTURBANCE COINCIDED EXACLY WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE fLOOD'S DDRAINING AWAY.  

tia MAJOR PART OF THIS GREAT CATACLYMSMIC EVENT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE TECTONIC SEPARATION OF THE CONTINENTS.  tHE aTLANDNTIC rIDGE IS OBVIOUSLY WHERE THEY SPLIT BETWEEN THE aMERICAS AND eUROPE AND aFRICA WHEN IT WAS ALL ONE BODY OF LAND.  tHE LAND BROKE APART AT THAT POINT, LALONG THTA LINE OF MAGMA WE SEE AS THE aTLANTIC rIDGE.  tHE CONTINENTS MOVE AWAY FROM THAT LINE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.   

i 'M THINKING OF THIS OCCURRING ABOUT THE SAME TIME THE fLOOD BEGAN TO DRAIN BUT THE TIMING COULD BE DIFFERENT TO SOME EXTENT THOUGH NOT BY MUCH.  tHE MOVEMENT OF THE TECTONIC PLATES TRIGGERED THE VOLCANOES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CROSS SECTION AND NO DOUBT HUNREDS OF VOLCANOES AROUND THE WORLD,.  iT WOULD ALSO HAVE BUCKLED THE LAND IN VARIOUJSUS PLACES, FORMED THE aPPALACHIAN MOUNTS AND COMPARABLE MOUNTSINS IN ewUEROPE, EVEN PUSHING UP THE rOCKIES IN THE FAR WEST, THE aLPS IN eUORPE ETC.  tHIS WAS ONE HUGE WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHE, ALL RELATED IN SOME WAY TO THE fLOOD. 

aLL THE ssTRATA WERE ALREADY IN PLACE.  iT WAS THEIS GREAT UPHEAVAL THAT BROKE IT UP HERE AND THERE AROUND THE WORLD, TILTED IT, TWISTED IT AND SO ON.  i THINK IT ALL HAPPENED DURING THIS ONE GREAT TECTONIC EVENT, ALL THE FOLCANOES AND THE REARRANGING OF THE LAND IN VARIOUS PLACES.  tHE PUSHING UP OF THE REGION IN THE CROSS SECTION.  tHE CRACKING OPEN OF THE gRAND cANYON AS THE LAND WAS PUSHED UP BY THE BREAKING UP OF THE ROCK UNDERNEATH THAT AREA THAT BECAME THE gREAT uNCONFORMTIY.  tHE MOUNDING OF THE LAND WOULD HAVE BROKEN UP THE LSTRATA ABOVE IT AND    MORE VIOLENTLY THAN IN OTHER PLACES IN THE AREA SO THAT IT WASHED INTO THE OPENING CRACK OF WHAT BECAME THE gRAND cANYON AND WASHED ALL AROUND IT TOO, SCOURING OFF THE kAIBAB PLATEUA.   tO THE NORTH THE PUSHING UP OF THE LAND BROKE OFF THE PIECES THAT LEFT THE CLIFFS THAT BECAME THE gRAND sTAIRCASE.  

i THINK THIS WAS ONE HUGE WORLDWIDE EVENT.  nOAH AND FAMILY WERE THE ONLY LIVING HUMANS LEFT, RIDING OIN THE ARK OVER THE mIDDLE EST AREA SO RELATIVELY FREE OF THE EFFECTS OF ALL THIS UNDERGROUND OR UNDERWATER DISTURBANCE EXCEPT NO DOUBT FOR SOME PRETTY HEAVE SWAVE ACTION.    aND aRARAT WOULD SOON APPEAR WHERE THE ARK CAME TO REST.  aFTER WHICH THEY WANTED SOME TIME FOR THE WATER TO FULLY DRAIN AWAY AD THE LAND TO DRY OUT.

TGHERE WAS ONE PROBLEM AT FIRST THAT KEPT COMING UPT.  cREREATIONISTS \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\


tHERE WAS ONE PROBLEM AT FIRST THAT KEPT COMING UP.  THIS WAS THE gREAT uNCONFORMTIY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE gRAND cANYON.  iT SEEMED FOR SOME REASON TO HAVE TO HVE BEEN THERE BEFORE THE STRATA WERE LAID DOWN AND THAT'S WHAT i'M DISPUTING.  cREATIONISTS AS i'VE RUN ACROSS THEM DON'T ATTIRUBTE all OF THE STRATA TO THE fLOOD, BUT ONLY THIS OR THAT PART OF THE COLUMN, DIFFERENT CREATIONISTS ALLOTTING DIRFFERENT SEGMENTS OF IT TO THE fLOOD.  i DON'T SEE HOW THE REAST OF THE STRATA CAN BE EXPLAINED THEN.  tHEY SWERE ALL PRETTY CLEARLY FORMED BY THE SAME PROCESSES, THEY ALL HAD TO HAVE BEEN LAID DOWN BY THE fLOOD IT SEEMS TO ME.  bUT THAT LEFT ME WITH HAVING TO EXPLAIN THE gREAT uNCONFORMITY AS OCCURRING AFTER THE fLOOD SO THAT THE STRATA IN THE ROCK BENEATH THE CANYON ARE ALSO EXPLAINABLE AS CRETED BY THE fLOOD.

i FORGET WHY THIS WAS A RPBOJE AT ALL i GUESS BECAUSE MY OWN ANSWER SEEMS TO OBVIOUS TO ME NOW, BUT IT WAS A PROBLEM FOR SURE.  

mY ANSWER IS THAT 

oh IS THIS WHY?  tHEY ALWAYS EXPLAIN UNCONFRMITYIES OF THIS TYPE, THAT IS aNGULAR uNCONFORMITIES, AS HAVING OCCURRED IN STAGES, THE LOWER PART BEING LAID DOWN OVER TIME AND THEN TILTED, AFTER WHICH THE UPPER STRATA ARE LAID DOWN ON TOP OF IT.  tHAT'S HOW THEY EXPLAIN ALL ANGULAR UNCONFORMITIES.    ok, THAT MUST HAVE BEEN WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS.


i SPENT UITE A BIT OF TIME PROBVING TO MYSELF THAT ANANGULAR UNCONFORMTIY COULD BE CAUSED BY A TECTONIC FORMCE FREOM THE SIDE PUSHIHNG THE LOWER STRAT UP AGAINST THE UPPER COLUMN SO THAT IT LOOKS TILTED AS IT BREAKS OFF AND THE UPPER PART APPEARS TO LIE OVER IT.  wELL IT DOES LIE OVER IT BUT IT WAS ALREADY THERE, JUST THAT THE LOWER PART BUCKLED UNDER IT AND SLIDE UNDER IT LEAVING THE UPPER PART HORIZONTAL MORE OR LESS. 


yES, TGHIS IS HOW i ENDED UP EXPLAIING THE WHOLE SHEBANTG, INCLUDING ALL THE ANGULAR UNCONFORMITIES EVERYWHERE ON THE PLANET.  tHEY ALL WER ECREATED AT THE SAME TIME IN THIS ONE MAJOR TECTONIC EVENT THAT CAME AT THE END O F THE fLOOD JUST AS IT WAS DRAINING WAWAY.  aLL OF THEM INCLUDING THE gREAT uNCONFORMITIY UNDER THE gRAND cANYON.   THE FORCE CAME FROMJ THE SIDE AND BUCKLED A SECTION OF THE LWER STRATA UNDERNEATH AN UPPER BLOCK OF STRATA AT SOME POINT WHERE THERE WAS SOME TEXTURAL SLIDING POSSIBILITY BETWEEN THE TWO ROCKS.  iN THE gRAND cANYON THE UPPER STRATA WERE STACKED TO A GREAT DEPTH, AT LEAST TWO MILES, MAYBE STHREE AND THEY SWITHDSTOOD THE BREAKING OUP THAT OCCURRED AT OTHER ANGULAR UNCONFRMITIES THAT IN MANY CASES LEFT JUST ONE HORIZONTAL LAYER INTANCT ON TOP OF THE TILTED LOWER STRATA.

tHE MOST FAMOUS ANGULAR UNCONFRMITY IS PROBABLY THE ONE AT sICCAR poINT WHEICH i SPENT UITE A BIT OF TIME INVESTIGATING.  


sORRY, BOT TO TAKE A BREAK.  

tO BE CONTINUED.

tHE pERPLEXING dAWKINS

oF COURSE i KEEP RUNNING ACROSS dAWKINS INTERVIEWS AND i'M LISTENING TO ANOTHER ONE.  i'M GETTING VERY ERPLEXED BY HIM.  oF COURSE i'M PARTICULARLY ANNOYED WSITH HIM THAT HE LUMPS cHRISTIANITY IN WITH ALL THE REST OF THE RELIGIONS SEEMING TO THINK THAT IF THEY ALL CAN'T BE RIGHT THEN NONE OF THEM CAN BE RIGHT, WHICH IS OF COURSE FALSE.  \\

bUT HE'S PERPLEXING BECAUE HE REALLY SEEMO THINK THAT DARWINISM HAS BEEN PROVEN AND IT REALLY HASN'T.gE SEEMS TO THINK THAT BECAUSE NATURAL SELECTION MIGHT EXPLAIN THE APPEARANCE OF DESIGN IN NATURE THAT THEREFORE IT DOES EXPLAIN IT, AS IF IT HAD BEEN PROVED, BUT IT HASN'T.  aLL HE'S EVER SAID IS THAT IT EXPLAINS IT BUT HE HASN'T EVER SOWN ONE IOTA OF ACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT IT HAS DONE SO.  iT REMAINS A PLAUSIBLE POSSIBILITY AND NO MORE THAN THAT BUT HE DOESN'T SEEM TO RECOGNIZE THAT FACT.

iT SOUNDS PLAUSIBLE ENOUGH i SUPPOSE BUT IF i THIHNK ABOUT IT SERIOUSLY FOR A WHLIE i REALIZE THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, NATURAL SELECTION CAN'T CRETE ANYTHING THAT LOOKS DESIGNED.  aND AGAIN THERE ISN'T A TSHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT IT COULD OR DOES.  tHERE IS JUST A STRING OF PLAUSIBILITIES THAT SEEM LESS AND LESS PLAUSIBLE AS i THINK ABOUT THEM.

bUT THERE IS NO ANSWERING THIS SORT OF THING, IT'S SELF JUSTIFYING AND UNANSWERABLE, UNFALSIFIBLE TO USE pOPPER'S TERM.  yETR HE THINKS HE'S GOOT ACTUAL PROOF SOMEWHOW.  hE'LL SPEND LONG SESSIONS SHOWING HOW mOUNT piMPROBABLE IS TO BE CLIMBED SLOWLY AROUND AND AROUND RATHER THAN STRAIGHT UP WITHOUT SHOWING THAT IN FACT THAT'S EVE ACTUALLY HAPPENED AS AN EVOLUTIONARY PATTERM.  hE LIKES ANALOGIES LIKE THE BLIND WATCHMAKER BUT HE REALLY NEVER GETS AWAY FROM MERE ANALOGY INTO ACTUAL FACT.  nEVER.  aND HE DOESN'T SEEM TO KNOW IT.  hE CALLS IT ALL FACT WITHOUT ANY JUSTIFICATION.



lATER:  aS i GO ON LISTENING TO THE LATEST INTERVIEW WITH dAWKINS i FIND HIM AGAIN COMPLAINIHNG THAT THE oLD TESTAMENT IS AN EVIL BOOK AND THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO KNOW ANYONE WHO LIVED BY ITS MORALITY.

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fIRST OF ALL NOBODY RECOMMENDS LIVING BY THE oLD tESTAMENT LEAST OF ALL THE oLD TESTAMENT ITSELF.  iT IS A HISTORY OF THE PEOPLE iSRAL AND OF THEIR DEALINGS WITH THEIR gOD.  sOMETIMES A HISTORY IS GIVEN TO SHOW A MODEL BY WHICH TO LIVE BUT OFTEN IT REVEALS SINS AND ERRORS AS A WARNING not TO LIVE BY THEM.  
hOWEVER, HE IS AGAIN LISTING THE LAWS OF iSRAEL NOT JUST THE HISTORICAL NARRATIVE, AND HE THINKS THE LAW OF STONING TO DEATH SOEONE FOR BREAKING THE sABBATH IS A HORROR OF INJUSTICE, AS IS STONE WITCHES TO  DEATH, AND "PERSECUTING" HOMOSEXUALS.  i DN'T KNOW WHERE ANYONE IS SEEN TO BE PERSPECTUIGNT HOMOSEXUALS IN THE ot, BUT THERE IS A LAW FORBVIDDEN THE HOMOSEXUAL ACT AND THE SENTENCE FOR THAT IS PROBABLY DEATH THOUGH i DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT PASSAGE.  
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wE ARE NJOT A THEOCRACY, WE cHRISTIANS ARE NOT A THEOCRACY, iSRAEL WAS A THEOCRACY THOUGH IT ISN'T TODAY.  iN THE oLD tESTAMETN iSRAEL WAS A THEOCRACY AND THE LAWS WERE GIVEN BY gOD.  aND WE COULD, IF WE WERE WISE, LEARN FROM THOSE LAWS, THAT CERTAIN ACTS ARE TRULY THE ABOMJINATIONS THAT DESERVE THE PUNISHEMENTS THEY ARE GIVEN THERE.  nOT THAT WE ARE TO ENACT THOSE PUNISHEMTNS, WE ARE NOT, WE ARE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DISPENSATION, BUT WE could LEARN THT THEY DESERVE THEM, THTA BREAKING THE sABBATH WAS A HORRENDOUS EVIL IN THE CONTEXT OF iSRAEL'S CULTURE, AND SO WAS THE SIN OF WITCHCRAFT.   tHE sABBATH IS A PICTURE OF THE REST gOD OFFERS TO THOSE WHO KNOW hIM AND LIVE BY hIM, A REST TO BE BOUGHT BY THE BLOOD OF THE mESSIAH YET TO COME, WHO IS PROPHESIED INDIRECTLY IN THE LAW OF THE sABBATH.  dAWKINS WOULD HAVE NO SENSE OF ANY OF THAT AND COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT IT SINCE HE RESFUESE TO BELIEVE ANYH OF IT ANYWAY.  bUT IT IS A HIGH RTTREASON TO BREAK THE LAW OF THE sABBATH IN THE CONTEXT GIVEN.  dAWKINS IS JUST THE USUAL SIMPLETON WELL i GUESS i SHOULDN'T CALL HIM A SIMPLETON, BUT HE'S JUDGING BY HIS OWN MODERN CULTURURAL CONTEXT WHICH IS USUALLY CONSIDERED TO BE A BIG MISTAKE BY SOPHSITCATED PEOPLE AND YES, SCIENTIESTS.    tHE sABBATH IS A TRIVIAL OBSERVANCE IN MODERN bRITAIN, CARRYING NONE OF THE WEIGHT OF THE oLD tESTAMENT lAW.  
aND OF COURSE HE HAS NNO FEELING FOR THE SIN OF WITCHCRAFT, WHICH IS THE CONSORTING WITH DEMONS.  oF COURSE DEMONS DON'T EXIST FOR HIM SO IT'S EASY FOR HIM TO P[OOH THE POH THE WHOLE THING AS A BIG NOTHING.  bUT THERE ARE REALLY DEMONS, AND AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY BELIEVED IN THEM AND THEY SHOW UP THROUGHOUT THE GOSPELS IN THE nEW TESTGAMENT AS WELL, NOT VERY NICE SPIRTIT BEINGS WHO HATE HUMANITY AND PROBABLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY THINGS IN THIS WORLD THAT ARE HURTFUL TO US THT WE ASCRIBE TO UOTHER CAUSES.     cONSORTING WITH DEMONS ALSO DRAWS PEOPLE AWA Y FROMTHE TRUTE cgOD WHO IS THEIR PROTECTOR AND GIVER OF ALL GOOD THIJGS, AND THEY WOULD LEAD EVERYBODY TO hELL.  yOU MGIHT WANT TO AVOID DEMONS IF YOU CAN, mR. dAWKINS., BUT OF COURSE THEYH ARE VERY HAPPY WITH HYOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T RATTLE THEIR CAGES AT ALL SINCE YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THEY EXIST.  uNFORTNATELY SOME DAY YOU WILL FIND OUT THEYU DO AND i PRAY YOU WILL HAVE FOUND cHRIST AND BEEN SAVED BEFORE YOU DO.

i SUSPECT HOMOSEXUALITY HAS A DEMONIC ORIGI BYSELF, AS A POSSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR THE DEATH PENALTY THERE BUT AT LEAST A VIOLATION OF THE NORMAL SEXUAL PATTERN HAS A CORRUPTING EFFECT ON THE COMMUNITY.  wHEN IT IS A THEOCRACY AND TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON gOD AND ONE ANOTHER AS THEY WERE BACK THERN.    tHAT'S MY THJOUGHT ON THAT SUBJECT.  wE ARE NOT ENJOINED TO PUNISH HOMSEXUALS TODAY.  aLTHOUGH WE'D BE A LOT BETTER OFF i SUSPECT WIF WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO PARADE DOWN OUR STREETS SHOWING OFF THEIR ABERRATION FOR ALL TO SUPPOSEDLY ADMIRE.  that IS A CUPORRUPTING INFLUENCE ON THE COMMUNITY WE COULD WELL DO WITHOUT.  aS IS ALL THIS TRANSGENDER HORROR OF THE MUTILATION OF CHILDREN AND SO ON, WHICH i THINK YOU DO OBJECT TO, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT MUCH.



aS HE GOES ON i AM REMINDED THAT HE NATURALLY THINKS cATHOLICISM IS cHRISTIANITY.  hE POINTS TO THE mIDDLE aGES AS A TIME IN cHRISTIANITY   AS A TIME IN cHRISTIANITY WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSEDLY DOINT ALL THE SAME ATROCITIES THAT ISLAM DOES, AND i SUPPOSE THAT IS RIGHT IF YOU ARE TALKINGA BOUT cATHOLICISM BUT cATHOLICISM REALLY IS NOT cHRISTAINITY, WHICH IS WHAT THE pROTESTANT rEFORMERS FINALLY DISCOVERED WHEN THEY TRIED TO REFORM IT.  THEY DISCOVERED THAT IT IS THE aNTICHRIST SYSTEM, THAT THE pOP HOIMSELF IS the aNTICHRIST, AND THEY PROVED IT FROM SCRIPTURE.  cATHOLICISM MAINTAINES ENOUGH OF THE BIBLICAL TEACHING TO GIVE IT A VENEER OF cHRISTIANITY AND EVRYBODY FALLS FOR THAT, NOT THE LEAST BEING THOSE WHO ARE BORN INTO IT AND ARE OF COURSE LOYAL TO IT FOR THAT REASON AND THINK IT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF CHRISTIANITY.  aLTHOUGH IT IS REALLY A DISTORTED FORM OF cHRISTIANITY WHICH DOESN'T EVEN TEACH THE WAY TO GET SAVED, AND HAS ACCUMJULATED ALL THE PAGAN TRAPPINGS OF THE PAGAN RELIGIONS OF ROME WHICH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH cHRISTIANITY.  

tHAT'S NOT dAWKINS' FAULT BUT i WISH HE HAD SPENT MORE TIME EDUCATING HIMSELF ON THSE THINGS BEFORE HE CAME OUT SWINGING AGAINST ALL OF cHRISTINAITY.


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tHE rOMAN cHURCH IS STILL THE SAME CHURCH IS TWAS IN THE mIDDLE aGES, IT'S JUST GONE UNDERGOUNRD AS IT WERE BECAUSE O THE pROTESTANT rEFORMATION WHICH GAVE IT A GHUGE SMACKDOWN THAT DESTROYED THE POWER IT HAD HELD THROUGH OUT THAT MEDIEVAL PERIOD.  IT IS STILL REELING FROM THAT SMACKDOWN ALTHOUGH IT IS SLOWLY MAKING INROADS AND MAY EVENTUALLY RECAPTURE THAT LOST POWER.  IT CERTAINLY WILL IN THE VERY LAST DAYS WHEN THE aNTICHRIST WILL ONCE AGAIN RULE THE WORLD AND THE LIKES OF A dAWKINS WILL BE PUT TO DEATH FOR MERELY BEING A cULTURAL cHRISTAIN.  tHE iNQUISITION NEVER WENT AWAY, IT IS QUIETLY SIMMERING AWAY BENEATH THE SURFACE, NEVER REPUDICATED, NEVER REFORMED.  IT IS EVEN STILL PRACTICED I sOUTH aMERICAN IN SOME PARTS.  IT WAS NEVER CONFINED MERELY TO THE sPANISH iNQUISITION BUT SPREAD OVER eUROPE KILLING AND PERSECUTING SOE FIFTY MILLION DISSIDENT TRUE cHRIATIANTNS IN A PERIOD OF ABOUT SIX HOUNDRED EARS.

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