sO HE SEEMS TO BE TREATING THE CROSS AS A PICTURE OF SUFFERING, AS IN SUFFERING HUMANITY.  wE ALL SUFFER AND THAT'S THE POINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.  iS THAT WHAT HE THINKS THE GOSPEL  IS?  

tHROUGHOUT THE GOSPEL OF hjOHN, FROM ONE CHAPTER TO THE NEXT, jESUS IS WUOTED SAYING IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THT YOU MUST BELIEVE ON hIM TO BE SAVED OR TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.  bELIEVE ON hIM.  bEFORE hE GOES TO THE CROSS IT'S JUST BELIEVE ON mE.  bELIEVE THAT i AM THE mESSIAH SENT BY gOD.  iF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT i AM hE YOU WILL DIE IN YOUR SINS.  tHAT'S THE NEGATIVE FORM OF IT BUT i DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE FIRST PART OF THE GOSPEL OF jOHM, NOT SURE WHERE IT OCCFURS.  bUT hE DOES SAY IN THERE SOMEWHERE, bEFORE aBRAHAM WAS, i aM, CLAIMIN GOOTO BE gOD.

i DON'T THINK i HEARD rOHR SAY ONE THING ABOUT BELIEVING IN cHRIST AS mESSIAH OR gOD OR ANYTHING ELSE.  nOR HAS HE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OUR BEING CRUCIFIED WITH cHRIST ON THE cROSS.  i AM CRUCIFIED WITH cHRIST SAYS pAUL.  dOES rOHR SEE THAT AS GOSPEL TRUTH?  

sINCE THE cATHOLIC cHURCH ANATHEMATIZED THE pROTESTANT UNDERSTANDING OF SALVATION THEY MUST DO THEIR UTMOST TO AVOID ANY SUCH FORMULATION SO HOW COULD THEY EVER BE SAVWD?