Sunday, July 15, 2012

The critics as usual missing the point completely. My last post on The Harbinger? I can only hope.

Well I did get to hear Brannon Howse's latest program on The Harbinger. (NOTE: It will only be available for two weeks and then you have to pay to hear it).

More of the same.

I'd like to keep it simple if possible:

They have NOTHING to say about the book itself and they still don't get what it's all about. Brannon still hasn't read it but Jimmy DeYoung says he has and yet he doesn't get it either.

ALL they have is the accusations about side issues they've been amassing for weeks now, about Jonathan Cahn's associations with NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) people (they have only ONE instance of that, by the way, and they ignore his objection that he doesn't know enough about the NAR to agree or disagree with them), his appearance on Glenn Beck and Sid Roth, the fact that he believes God may still speak to His people through dreams and prophecies and the like (in connection with the ONE fictional dream that occurs in the book, the only thing in the book that even remotely justifies any of their accusations, and their ONLY reference to the book itself).

Then they go on to Joseph Farah who made the film based on the book, The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment, but do they say anything about the film? Nope, NOT A WORD, they are content to go back to a World Net Daily article in May of 2005 in which Farah endorses a book called The Mega Shift. They spend at least ten minutes on this book, which, I agree, is clearly an example of the end-time apostate doctrine of Dominionism, and does unfortunately reveal a lack of discernment on the part of Farah. But that's ALL they talk about and obviously they think they have discredited the film based on The Harbinger by talking about this OTHER book, though The Harbinger has nothing to do with Dominionism, and Farah's unfortunate lack of discernment in that case does not prove a thing about his film The Isaiah 9:10 Judgment.

Yet they claim they aren't arguing guilt by association.

ALL CIRCUMSTANTIAL POINTS, NOT ONE SINGLE POINT AGAINST THE BOOK ITSELF, because they don't have one, and they still DON'T GET IT.

And because they have a good reputation among discernment ministries others are jumping on their bandwagon also without reading the book and also not getting what it's really all about.

Again, the book is ALL ABOUT THE HARBINGERS, REAL OCCURRENCES IN THE REAL WORLD THAT UNCANNILY PRECISELY REPEAT THE EVENTS AND ATTITUDE OF ISAIAH 9:10. That's what the average reader finds so compelling about the book, that's the point of the book. Missing that is missing it completely.

It's really amazing that they address EVERYTHING BUT THE POINT OF THE BOOK.

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Again, let me make it clear: If the book was at all based on NAR beliefs or gnosticism or mysticism, showed any compromise with false doctrine, I'd have to agree with the critics. But it isn't and it doesn't. DESPITE all these peripheral concerns, legitimate enough in their own right (though far from proven against Jonathan Cahn), the book's message remains valid, utterly untouched by any of these attempts to undermine it.

The harbingers are REAL occurrences in real reality, so far beyond coincidence or human manipulation the theology and eschatology of Jonathan Cahn is irrelevant. He's just the reporter. Maybe you don't like the sort of messenger God chose for the purpose, but God didn't ask you. The critics have remained blind to this one central fact.

*****PROVE SOME OTHER SOURCE FOR THE HARBINGERS THAN GOD HIMSELF AND YOU'D HAVE A POINT.*****

AS IT IS YOU ARE JUST BLOWING HOT AIR. Destructive hot air, smearing innocent people, but still just hot air.

The harbingers are portents of God's judgment on the nation because they literally repeat the same situation in America that occurred in Israel as described in Isaiah 9:10 -- fallen bricks, sycamore tree, the determination to rebuild and replant with stronger materials -- the exact same materials Israel intended to use, same kind of stone, same kind of tree. The verse describes God's judgment in the form of an attack by Assyria and Israel's defiant attitude toward it instead of repentance, which is going to bring further judgment as subsequent verses make clear. The repetition of the same literal events in America, the fallen buildings to be replaced by a better building with a quarried cornerstone, and a single symbolic sycamore tree that was replaced by a pine type tree, and the attitude of defiance saying we'll build and plant bigger and better -- even spoken unwittingly by some of America's leaders -- is something that could only come from God Himself. This is no simple call to repentance that anyone could have given who is tuned into the sins of America, this is a declaration of God's judgment apparently given to us by God Himself.

The critics don't get it and they don't seem to care. They are content to tar Cahn with insinuations and innuendoes and leave it at that.

What else is there to say really? Time to commit this to God, pray and trust in Him, there's really nothing more to say.

2 comments:

Unknown said...

Hello,

I've been following your articles on The Harbinger.

I just wanted to let you know that my book on The Harbinger just went to the printer for the first proof. Digitally printed copies will be available soon, followed by traditional offset copies.

The reason I decided to comment was to say that I think I have thoroughly dealt with all of the main issues in The Harbinger to the degree that I think your criticisms of the TH's critics are satisfactorily answered. I've had a lot of readers and 3 editors - the book is a little over 200 pages and has over 250 footnotes between quotes from TH and primary source material.

One of the main take-aways is that all the apparent coincidences that could only be due to God's direct intervention in all those events is an illusion - due to a number of things, including mishandling the text, "stacking the deck" with very selective use of historical facts and data, misleading statements, logical fallacies and a number of other things. Like any illusion, what people think they are seeing and reality are not the same. This is not to disparage those who believe there is no explanation for this many but God - because if each of those were really the whole story, anyone would likely come to the same conclusion. Even a cursory examination of a lot of the historical facts can give the impression that Cahn has it right - but that's because everyone is looking where he wants them to look. They see what he wants them to see and they conclude he is right - they are undeniable historical facts. Well, not exactly. In each case, there is a lot more to the story.

I have really tried to be fair and honest and stay away from personal attacks - though I'm sure I won't be interpreted that way by all.

My hope is that it will at least encourage some to pause and realize there might be another side to the story.

Sincerely in Christ,
Dave James

Faith aka Connie said...

Dear David,
Thank you very much for commenting here. I really appreciate hearing from someone who is as involved in this as you are.

I've been aware that your book will be coming out soon and would of course want to read it as soon as possible.

At least you are trying to address the main issue I keep hammering away at -- the uncanniness of the harbingers themselves. I don't recall that you addressed this in your earlier essay on the subject.

I certainly look forward to seeing what facts you believe show the harbingers to be illusions.