Monday, December 28, 2020

Pondering The Star of Bethlehem

 

As part of my small effort to recognize if not exactly celebrate Christmas this year, I watched the Star of Bethlehem video by Rick Larson. I own it but couldn’t find it so I watched the one at You Tube. As often happens I end up with a feeling of… inconclusiveness, even doubt. In a way I’m convinced by it but if asked to explain it I don’t think I could. It all goves by very fast with little time to ponder each point, and it was only after watching it about three times plus reviewing short segments that I had some grasp of how it all fits together. However, I still had questions, even wrote an email to Larson who may not be able to answer me, and now I want to try to spell it all out to see if I can make it clearer.

The thing I think throws me the most is that he almost seems to want to avoid identifying the time of Christ's birth as shown by his own research. He finds what he says is the brightest star ever seen, on the very date all his study leads him to conclude was the birth of Christ, but without even pausing to note the exact date he rushes on to other interesting points in the story. This seems to me quite odd since the title of the film leads us to believe that the whole point was to identify that star on that date. I think he succeeded. I’m convfinced. I think he makes a great case for it and that he did show that there really was an actual brightest astronomical occurrence or “star” that appeared on the day of Christ’s birth exactly as we are told in the second chapter of the gospel of Matthew.

Since scripture doesn’t identify the date of His birth it’s not of major importance in itself but if the whole point of the study was to find the star it seems odd that he doesn’t even mention the date on which it occurred, which appears to have been a day in June of the year 2 BC based on his researches. The star he found was an extremely close conjunction of the planets Jupiter and Venus, the “father” and “mother” planets which is of course very appropriate for the occasion, and he claims that this conjunction was the brightest thing any of the Magi would have seen in their lifetimes. Since he considered the star to be independent evidence of Biblical truths, and in my opinion he succeeded in demonstrating that, it seems to me he should have been emphatic about the date and the claim that the star he found really was the brightest star ever seen. If it really was THE star that marked the birth of the Savior it has to be more than the brightest thing the Magi had seen in their lifetimes, it has to be the brightest thing in the sky anyone has ever seen, period.

In a recent interview on a Fox podcast I found at his website he admits that conjunctions between Jupiter and Venus occur from time to time, so that his claim is not that the conjunction itself is unique, but that this particular conjunction was the closest of them all and therefore the brightest. This needs more than a passing and vague reference. It took many viewings of the film for me to be able to pin down the doubts I kept having and this reason for them. I believe he made his case, I wish he’d made a bigger production of it so there would be no doubt he’d made it.

He’d been led to that date after some time of study and he doesn’t spell out all the steps that led him there, but it started with learning about Johannes Kepler’s attempts to find the star of Bethlehem. Kepler failed and Larson explains that as his having relied on a date for the death of Herod the Great given in the history of the Jews by Flavius Josephus. Herod ordered the killing of male babies up to the age of two when he heard of the birth of the “King of the Jews” as the Magi called Him, to eliminate competition for the throne of Israel, so he had to have still been alive at the time of Jesus’ birth. Josephus gives the date of his death as 4 BC so Kepler looked for a great star marking Christ’s birth in the years preceding that date.

But Larson found someone who showed that the date in Josephus was wrong, a printing or copying error. It turned out that all the copies of Josephus’ history printed before the year 1544 had 1 BC instead of 4 BC for Herod’s death. So that of course became the date Larson used for his investigation. (If you Google the date of Herod’s death you will find that the erroneous 4 BC is still used.)

So working from 1 BC as the latest year for Christ’s birth Larson used the astronomy program "Starry Night" to look for an unusually bright star in 2 and 3 BC. He doesn’t describe how he went about this investigation but what he arrived at was some very interesting heavenly phenomena starting in September of 3 BC. And by the way, earlier in the film he’s explored various candidates people have proposed to explain the star and eliminated all but the planets of the solar system, so he’s looking particularly at Jupiter, the largest planet, and looking for conjunctions of planets, where they appear so close together they look like one very bright object.

He’s also had to resolve his concern about getting into astrology since he’s finding signs in the planets’ movements through the constellations of the Zodiac belt. All that is interesting and he covers it early in the film as preliminary to his discoveries. It’s astrology in the sense that it’s not about the actual physics of the universe, chemistry and sizes and distances and all that, but about how the sky looks to a person on planet Earth, so that how large or bright an object looks to the naked eye has nothing to do with how large it is in reality or how far from other bodies. How it looks is the whole point. From our position on Earth the sun and planets travel through a belt of fixed or stationary stars that many peoples have arranged into figures to which they have given names. It looks like a ram so we call a particular configuration or cluster of stars Aries etc. There are twelve constellations or signs that make up the belt of the Zodiac, starting with Aries, then Taurus, Gemini and so on, through which the nine planets of the solar system including the sun and moon appear to move at different rates, The sun takes a month to travel through one of the signs, hence the “sun sign” astrologers associate with people’s birth month. In a nutshell Larson concludes that since the Bible itself refers to signs in the heavens that must mean that it’s not forbidden, reasoning that the stars and planets used as signs are indicators, while astrology treats them as controlling our lives and that’s what is forbidden.

So having resolved that question and the date of Herod’s death he goes on to show what he found in the sky starting in September of 3 BC. Looking at the sky from Babylon, which is where he thinks the Magi most likely came from, he finds Jupiter rising in the East in close conjunction with a distant star named Regulus, which of course is a visual effect from the vantage point of Earth, Regulus in fact being behind Jupiter in deep space. King planet Jupiter, named for the highest god in the Roman pantheon, in conjunction with a star also called King, and called that in many languages. Animating the computer program to watch the movement of Jupiter over time he shows that it appears to pass Regulus very closely three times, in a triple conjunction which is a pretty dramatic event.  (Such a movement forward and backward is again a visual effect caused by our seeing it from the moving Earth.) As Larson describes the motion, it looks like Jupiter is “crowning” Regulus.   Then he shows that this movement is occurring within the constellation Leo.

It is significant that this is occurring in the constellation or sign of Leo because the Messiah is prophesied in the Old Testament to come from the tribe of Judah, and Judah is represented as a lion, which is the same creature represented by that constellation:
Genesis 49:9-10 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come;


"Shiloh" by the way is a term for the Messiah.  The prophecy is saying that the Messiah will come from Judah, after a long line of kings bearing the sceptre of power that precede Him. 

 Then Larson shows that on September 3rd of 3 BC the next constellation after Leo is seen rising in the East and that is the sign of Virgo the Virgin, and the crescent moon is under its feet. This very image is described in the twelfth chapter of the Book of Revelation: 



Revelation 12:1-2 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.



This image is usually interpreted as the nation of Israel, but in this context it may fit the virgin girl Mary better. The time is the Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashanah, and If Larson’s reasoning is correct, this image may represent the moment of Jesus’ conception by the Holy Spirit, as announced by the angel Gabriel. It isn’t all that clear in the documentary itself, at least not to me, but he makes it clearer on his website that the crowning of Regulus by Jupiter in Leo is actually going on while the sun is in Virgo, simultaneously with the appearance of the virgin with the crescent moon at her feet, representing pregnancy. The triple conjunction in Leo acts as a sort of announcement of the birth of the Messiah though it is occurring at the same time. Either conception or birth is an appropriate interpretation of the rising of Virgo with the new moon beneath her feet. It’s the new moon of Rosh Hashanah or Jewish New Year symbolizing a beginning. It’s interesting that “between his feet” in the prophecy of the lawgiver from the tribe of Judah as quoted above, refers to his descendants, and the moon beneath the feet of the Virgin also signifies a descendant, or birth. Its being a new moon could represent birth or conception but since there is no bright star here the best guess is conception, and to find out Larson takes the computer program nine months into the future.

Which is where he finds that conjunction of Jupiter with Venus that began this post, the brightest heavenly phenomenon ever seen in the lifetimes of the Magi. As I said, I wish he’d made it more evident that he’s claiming it was the brightest heavenly object ever seen by anyone ever, and given the date of its appearance and made some to-do about this as the fulfillment of his research. I’m convinced anyway, but I’ve had to work to overcome some confusion and doubts to get convinced.

Instead of lingering on that point, however, he goes on to describe how the “star” led the Magi first to Jerusalem from Babylon, and then from there to Bethlehem where they bestowed gifts on the baby born King of the Jews according to that star. So they being watchers of the heavens saw this brightest star that had ever been seen rising in the eastern sky nine months after the heavenly phenomena they would also have witnessed, the close conjunction of Jupiter with Regulus in the sign of the lion which is the sign of Judah, followed by the Virgin with the crescent moon indicating a pregnancy. When nine months later the extraordinarily bright conjunction of Jupiter with Venus occurs they understand all these signs together to indicate that a great king has been -- born among the Jews. Larson doesn’t say in what sign this conjunction occurs but since it takes twelve years for Jupiter to circle the sun perhaps it’s still in Leo. I could find out by consulting an Ephemeris, which is a table of the exact positions of all the planets in the Zodiac over thousands of years, and maybe I’ll do that eventually.

One possibly original contribution Larson makes to this story is his conjecture that the Magi were probably Jewish themselves. It makes sense because they are so interested in the birth of this King of the jews. The idea is that they were probably among the remnant of the jews who stayed in Babylon at the end of the seventy-year exile, as Daniel the prophet also did, and trained under his authority. They would have known of all the prophecies of the coming Messiah, known them from Daniel’s own prophecies as well as from the heavenly signs. Even the pagan Magi might have been interested in such a birth as they could see spelled out in the sky, but to travel to Jerusalem to worship Him seems far more likely to be something a Jewish Magus would do. So I think Larson may have hit on something important here.

Something that puzzles me is his saying that at Christmastime this conjunction is shown in the planetaria. Why if it occurred in June? Are they saying this was the star and He was born in June? Larson doesn’t tell us and I remain puzzled. (This occurs around 42 on the counter for the video). In that case the star was already discovered before Larson discovered it. I don’t have a way to resolve this. I’ve written to Larson about this among other questions I have but of course he probably gets too many emails to answer me. We’ll see. It doesn’t change the conclusion that this conjunction WAS the Star of Bethlehem though.

But on we go as the Magi first arrive in Jerusalem and inquire where the child was born, and are told how to get to Bethlehem. If they were Jewish as Larson supposes, they would have been familiar with the Micah prophecy of His birth in the town of Bethlehem, but being from Babylon they might not have known how to get there. That’s how I’m putting this together anyway. They referred to the child as the King of the Jews which is what provoked Herod to murder so many male babies, and after they had seen the child in Bethlehem Mary and Joseph took the baby to Egypt, having been warned of the slaughter to come.

Took time out here to read more of the Star of Bethlehem website including some of the Comments. Plenty of people have strong opinions about the star and the time of Christ’s birth that are different from Larson’s and want to argue with him about it. I continue to think he’s made his case though. And in one of his replies to a comment he says he considers 9/3 of 3 BC to be the time of Jesus’ conception, and 6/2 of 2 BC to be His birth. Finally he gives a date for that, but otherwise as far as I’ve read in the site he continues to slight the birth date and I continue to wonder why. He also makes it clear that he thinks that the brightest star which he’s identified as the Jupiter-Venus conjunction in June of 2 BC would not have attracted the attention of ordinary people but only those who studied the sky such as the Magi. This is to explain why Herod didn’t know about the birth of the Messiah. I guess I’ll accept that explanation, but since people were all very aware of the starry sky in that part of the world in those days it does raise a question why it wasn’t more apparent to people in general.

Larson has given the Magi travel time so that he has them arriving in Jerusalem in November. Now they set course for Bethlehem which is five miles south of Jerusalem, and they have the Star in the south to lead the way. The Star is no longer a conjunction but simply the planet Jupiter which is also a bit of a puzzle. Wouldn’t the Star remain the Star for this event? Wouldn’t it be that conjunction that stood over the town of Bethlehem? But of course both planets wouldn’t go into retrograde at the same time, retrograde meaning the point where from our point of view a planet appears to stop and reverse course. But as Larson shows in his astronomy software, Jupiter did appear to stop over the town of Bethlehem just as the Magi approached it from the north, confirming their calculations about the birth of the King of the Jews. And rather amazingly it came to a stop on December 25th of that year! So that was the first Christmas? Not at Christ’s birth but six months later. The family had moved into a house by then. How long Jupiter remained poised at the point where it stopped Larson doesn’t say, but that’s something I’d like to know. Possibly days at least? Anyway it had led them to the King, they bestowed their gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh, and went home by another route than they’d come by, having been warned in a dream of Herod’s intentions and not wanting to return to report to him as he’d requested.

Lots of interesting celestial phenomena stacking up here. I still think he should have made much more of the conjunction in June of 2 BC which must have been when Jesus was actually born, but the other phenomena he discovers are certainly just as interesting. He goes on from this point to find out when Christ was crucified and to look at the sky on that day. He says that he’s come to regard the heavenly signs surrounding Jesus’ life and death as a Celestial Poem of great beauty, and I think he also makes that case.

Jesus died on Preparation Day which is always on a Friday as it is the day when the Jews prepare for the following Sabbath . Since they are forbidden to work on the Sabbatgh they do all the work of cooking and other household chores the day before. In the year that Jesus died on the cross Passover had to fall on a Friday, and with that clue in mind he tracks the year to 33 AD, April 3rd. And what he finds in the sky there is what he considers to be the ending of the Celestial Poem: Just as Jesus died, at three in the afternoon, the moon rose in eclipse, a blood moon. , and the sign that rose in the sky at that same hour was Virgo with that blood moon at her feet, a full moon now. These events certainly could make one’s hair stand on end, as he says happened to him when he discovered them.

Although I may still need to puzzle through a few things, just writing all this out has answered manyh of my questions. I’m convinced. I was already convinced but I’m more convinced. I think Rick Larson’s study has discovered the meaning of the Star of Bethlehem, the date of Jesus’ birth, and that he’s gone on to demonstrate much celestial drama surrounding the life and death of the Messiah overall, that Celestial Poem as he calls it. I think his study should become better known.


Later addition: The birth date of Jesus that it seems to me Rick Larson seems to rush past, June 2nc of 2 BC, occurs in the sign of Genmini which doesn't have any biblical correspondences that I know of although there are those who claim the entire Zodiac represents the gospel story. And I may be pushing things here but I thought I'd add that Gemini is represented as The Twins, and if there is significance4 to that as Christ's birthdate perhaps it's in the fact that He is known as the God-Man, as having two natures in Himself. Certainly not identical as the concept of twins suggests, but two. On the Star website in the comments section I think on the page about the travels of the Magi someone asks more than once what sign the conjuunction of Jupiter and Venus occurs in and doesn't get an answer. That's a question I had too, since nine months earlier Jupiter was in Leo making that triple conjunction with Regulus. It takes Jupiter twelve years to travel around the sun so it could still have been in Leo or could have moved on to Virgo in those nine months. If its position nine months earlier has significance one would expect it would still have significance on the day Jesus was born. The sun is in Gemini, the question is where was Jupiter.\


Another major sign he doesn't mention in the documentary is of course that the crucifixion occurred in the sign of Aries the ram, and that is very significant because Jesus isknown as the Lamb of God, the sacrificial lamb who died to pay for the sins of those who believe on Him. He died on Passover which for some fifteen hundred years or so since the Israelites were led out of Egypt by Moses was commemorated every year as commanded by God, looking forward to this final one-and-only sacrifice for sin. It was lamb's blood that was painted on the doorposts of the houses of the Israelites to mark them to be spared when the angel of death came through. This was the final plague against Egypt God wrought and it launches the Israelites on their journey to the Promised Land. That symbolism carries into the crucifixion and so does the sign of Aries the ram. It's all real, it's all real history, it's all God's arranging history to carry symbolism. It's all very amazing. The Star of Bethlehem carries on the amazing story as does the revelation of the Celestial Poem Rick Larson identifies. You can't make up this stuff though they always try to claim you can.

Thursday, December 24, 2020

Merry Christmas Etc.

 As usual for me for the last decade or so I'm not doing Christmas this year.  I may listen to my favorite "Messiah" a few times on You Tube to generate some Christmas mood and put its biblical message into my head, and open the usual cheery emails people always send at this time of your, but that's about it.  

Since the New Testament says the birth of Christ was attended by the announcement of angels to shepherds watching their flocks by night, we can be pretty sure that His birth did not occur in the cold winter of Christmastime, flocks of sheep not being grazed on the hills at that time of year, but since we don't have a known birthdate it's as good a time as any to celebrate it, and it has a lot of nice things to recommend it for that purpose.  Its proximity to the Winter Solstice heralds the lengthening of days towar the fruitful time of Spring which is also symbolized in the ball-shaped decorations on the Christmas tree, which represent the fruits that appear on trees later in the year.  The tree is an evergreen which helps to counter the bare feeling of most trees.  The lights are cheering and hopeful.  And there is something about a glttering lit tree in a dark room that speaks an almost otherworldly sort of cheer in the winter gloom.   All that comes from pagan winter traditions and not from Christianity but it's all been comfortably Christianized with Manger scenes and the like.  The theme of a Savior come into a dark world bringing salvation to all mankind can be found in the symbols if you want to find it.

But of course the holiday is mixed with a lot of unChristianiizable pagan and even anti-Christian elements as well.  Heres John MacArthur on that subject:

The Theology of Christmas (Philippians 2:5-11) - YouTube

Later:  Here's another MacArthur talk for the season, a shorter one delivered at his Master's Seminary, the birth of Jesus from Mary's point of view:  

The Christmas Story by John MacArthur - YouTube

Here's a Christmas themed presentation for anyone who might be interested.  The Star of Bethlehem is a lawyer's presentation of his study of an astronomy program in the light of the Bible to see if he could find the bright star in the sky that scripture says appeared at Christ's birth.  

The Star of Bethlehem - YouTube

Here's a performance of The Messiah I particularly like, with a Czech condutor, Vaclav Luks, of a Czech orchestra.

Handel Messiah -- VĂ clav Luks - YouTube


Merry Christmas!

Did the AMA Lift its Warnings Against HCQ or Not?

 A week or so ago I heard that the American Medical Association had rescinded its objections to the drug Hydroxychloroquine so that now they gave it a tacit approval for use with COVID, but of course when I Google it I get a lot of naysaying instead, or the usual anti-HCQ positions held by others.  My eyes are unfortunately worse than ever and tracking down the truth is beyond me at the moment, so all I'm going to say is that I heard that and it may or may not be true.  

That leaves me with my ongoing position that ththose who have testified in its favor are the credible ones and the objectors are falling for false information.   Its supporters are highly reputable physicians who have either used the drug for COVID with hundreds or in some cases even thousands of patients with as much as 100% success when they've used it in the first few days of the emergence of symptoms, and used it with an antibiotic, usually Azithromycin, or sometimes Doxyclycline, and Zinc.  Dr. Zelenko was apparently the first to use the drug with his own patients and developed his protogocol for its use that can be found online.  The idea to use the drug came up very early on as it is one of the drugs known to be "ionophores" that means they open celles to permit Zinc, which is an ion, tol enter and destroy the virus by interfering with its replication in the cells.  This chemisty was well known long before COVID came on the scene and various ionophores were considered for us.   HCQ appeared to have the most promise and became the therapeutic of choice for many who had studied the literature.  Dr. Zelenko published its use and other MDs followed with their own reports on their own espericned of adminiistering it in the early phase of the virus with good results.  These inclue some I've rported on here such as Dr. Simone Gole, Dr. Dsaniel Wohlgelernter, Dr. Harvey Risch and Dr. Stella Emmanuel.  

The studies of the drug that led to its rejection were ill conceive4d, and one was even completelely faked.   The main problem was using it too late for it to be effective, well beyond the early stage when it should have been used on outpatients, instead using it with hospitalized patients, many of whom were already too sick for the drug to be of any use.  They also didn't discriminate between young and old  or healthy people versus those with underlying health problems, although it iw well known by now that younger and healthier people usually recover completely from the disease while it is those over sixty and seventy or with risk factors that have  severe cases of it or even die.  Administering the drug to both groups indiscriminately and then not reporting the characteristics of those who did well versus those who did not, makes the study useless as far as determining the effect of the drug goes.  Since those who have used it to good effect know that it must be given in the very early stages such studies are as good as utterly useless. 

But used as recommended by the five doctors mentioned above it is known to knock out the virus within days of the emergence of symptoms and save lives.  They re commend using it specifically with the older and higher-risk patients, the ones who contribute the most to the death statistics we keep hearing.  Although there is also good reason to believe that those statistics are not accurage since the cause of death in many cases may not be COVID even though the virus was detected on testing.

So I guess I'm not in a position to report that the AMA reversed its stance right now, but they should since the drug has been known for decades to be safe for use with all kinds of patients through its use in cases of malaria and lupus, and now has been shown by many reputable physicians to cure COVID as well.  I continue to object to the political atmophere which has prevented this drug which could have saved thousands upon thousands of lives from being used.

Although I couldn't get to  the bottom of this question because of my bad eyesight and my inability to navigate the usual obstacle course put up by the Big Tech internet providers to obscure information they consider to be politically incorrect, I hope just saying this much could lead others to the truth.

Tuesday, December 15, 2020

The Gospel of Salvation by the Messiah According to Isaiah 53

 It's all there, in the Old Testament, in one particular chapter of the book of Isaiah the prophet, and John MacArthur does a magnificent job of spelling it out.  This is just Part 1 but it's all here: 

The Astonishing Servant of Jehovah (Isaiah 53) - YouTube

Saturday, December 12, 2020

An "Update" on Hydroxychloroquine

I'm posting a link to a page of information that is supposed to be an "update"  on the efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine.  All it doesw is rehash the old bad studies.  Most of them deal with hospitalized patients although the advice of all those who advocate it is that it is to be used within the first week of symptoms and they prescribe it to outpatients.  Used after the virus has become established it is not effective.  

Many of the studies do not discriminate between healthy and unheqalthy, or old and young patients so that the positive results shown are probably not due to the treatment but to the fact that those who did well were younger and healthier in the first place, whereas those who didn't do well or died were probably older or had other risk factors.  There is no way to tell, but what is imputed to the treatmetn is probably not due to the treatment under such conditions.  It's pretty clear that if anyone died at all it would have to be because the treatment was given too late, as all  those who have used it effectively have said many times.   Even to go on reporting such inept studies makes this page utterly untrustworthy.  

And of course those who have adovcated for the drug are not mentioned.  Dr. Zelenko, Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale, Dr. Simone Gold, Dr. Daniel Wohlgelernter, Dr. Stella Emmanuel.  

Some of them are silenced on the internet for "misinformation" because they advocate the drug and disagree with these studies.  This is beyond ridiculous into criminal.

An Update: Is hydroxychloroquine effective for COVID-19? (drugs.com)

Thursday, December 10, 2020

Irreconcilable Differences Part 2

Loose ends flapping around in my head.  In the film on Clarence Thomas I mention below in the post Feed Your Head Thomas explains that he started studying up on the founding documents of America to answer the question "Why do we have the government we have?  Why not a parliamentary system"  and so on.  He and a couple of helpers set about learning all they could about the founding era and the thinking that went into the Constitution.   It made him the Constitutional originalist he is today, even a "bloodthirsty originalist" as he said someone called him.  

The loose ends flapping up a storm in my skull include the thought how sad it is that he'd been through the university system and had a law practice before he knew much about the founding documents of America.   It's saddenibng to think there are probably many politicians who have intoned the oath to defend the Constitution who know very little about it.   I don't know much either, just have a general idea of what it stands for.  People applying for American citizenship probably know more about these things than we citizens do  

I mentioned in the previous post my fantasy of setting up meeting places in towns across the US  for the purpose of promoting such knowledge that most of us lack.  Sort of like Christian Science Reading Rooms with a lot more to them, of far more value than those places of course.  ,   I'd want it to be possible to get a very thorough education in these things if enough time was spent there.  I'd want it to have a library of books on every aspect of the subject, and/or books for sale, also show films from time to time, host lectures, provide summaries of books and lecture topics sort of like Cliff Notes for whoever wants them etc.  But I don't want it to be some stuffy classroom or library atmosphere, I want it to be casual and comfortable and a matter of personal interest how much a person gets involved in it.  A cafe atmosphere, because I have nice memories of cafe life where the regulars get to know each other and have interesting converstaions, or if they choose just sit and read over their coffee.  .Happy daydream.  

All that reminded me of an incident in my own cafe life when I was talking to another regular about his experience as a radical in support of black rights and his early life in South Africa.  He said he'd been pondering how they should word their Constitution to ensure blacks would be given equal status.  I said, How about "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."  He wanted to know where that came from.  He couldn't believe it had anything to do with America because in his mind America is this evil racist place and he assumed that must be enshrined in the system itself.  Of course it's not.  The system was designed for dealing with imperfect fallen humanity, holding  us to higher standards than any of us naturally live up to.   In a sense this is true of all decent governments but it reached its greatest expression in the American founding.  It's sad to think we don't know this, that it isn't common knowledge among all Americans.

One of the most destructive effects of the great uproar of the sixties was the abandonment of required courses in American History and Institutions and in Wester Civilization in the Universities.  The great uproar itselef was largely fomented by Marxist ideologues.  And that's how we got where we are today, our American foundations pretty much destroyed and in their place the makings of the next Communist tyranny with injustice and misery for all.

Cheers.

Wednesday, December 9, 2020

Irreconcilable Differences (Political Right vs. Left)

Mentioned to a liberal friend that I was running into problems registering for the new Parler social media platform that promises freedom of speech.  She hadn't heard of ir but when I explained that conservatives are gravitating to it because of the censorship on the other social media, she said "I'd be worried about hate speech."   I was taken by surprise although I shouldn't have been, it's such a standard leftist/liberal way of thinking, but I was and I asked what she meant.  Something about misinformation being spread around, and threats against people on the other political side.    

Neither of those things is what I understand the term "hate speech" to refer to but we kept it to those ideas anyway.  First, of course, the owners and moderators of such websites do not have the expertise to determine what is misinformation, and since they ban discussion of Hydroxychloroquine they prove their incompetence to judge, as well as their tyrannical totalitarian inclinations.  Besides, these are conversations mostly between ordinary people, not experts, and banning their opinions is way out of line.  But they even ban experts, doctors with all sorts of credentials and fine reputations because they are defending what has become a politically incorrect opinion.  You have to trust that people are capable of judging each other as we all have to in everyday life without their nanny intrusion, and that eventually the truth will prevail, censorship is an anti-American form of control  As for threats of violence I thought that was always prohibited speech, not some special category of "hate speech" so if people are getting away with such threats things are getting so bad we're beyond return to civility.

Her being worried about hate speech took a few days to settle in to my mind.  I don't know why I was so surprised but eventually the surprise turned to a kind of shock.  It seemed in the end that it had hit me like a punch in the stomach but I didn't register it as such, and was only now days later able to inhale again.  I thought she'd at least understand that conservatives ARE experiencing unfair censorship but instead it seemed like she distrusts conservatives, or people in general perhaps, to deserve the right to free specch the Constitution gives us.  I was oddly at sea for a few days while the hate speech remark circled around in my head, finally settling into the simple recognition that's not new but hit me as if it were new, that the divide between right and left is truly irreconcilable.

Then this morning I was listening to Rush Limbaugh who toward the end of his program mentioned that he knows many people who think conservatives should secede from the US.  I'd heard this before and I've thought it myself.  I still think it.  I probably think it more today than usual.  Rush said he isn't for it, he thinks that we're in the majority so why should we secede?  But we don't want to be in the position of imposing our unwelcome ideology on them any more than we want theirs imposed on us, and winning elections isn't going to keep that from happening.   If anything it would probably escalate their violence, the rioting, the attacks by Antifa and so on if Trump won again.  I think from the evidence I heard that he did in fact win this election, that the voter fraud does reach to that level, and of course I'd like to see the truth come out, but I don't want a civil war and it could go there whether we win or not.  

Another caller to Rush's show was passionate about finding educational or other civil ways to deal with the problem.  I think along those lines too.  She thought maybe Rush could promote creative ideas about how to go about that, promote organizations dedicated to it and that sort of thing. She mentioned bumper stickers but doesn't she know that would just get cars vandalized?   He answered that he thought he'd been doing his best in that direcrtion for all the time he's been on the air, which is true.    Well, maybe the caller will try to start something going, she sounds like she has the energy for it.

Me, I daydream about starting conservative opinion newspapers full of the best presentations of the conservative point of view, and giving them away by the millions.  Also daydream about establishing meeting places in every town where lectures on the Constitution and the founding principles of America could be taught and discussed, over espresso and pastries or something.  Any such enterprise would take millions and way too much time..  and besides the newspapers would be collected by leftists and chucked in dumpsters, and meeting places would be vandalized and burned down.

Secession looks more and more attractive.   Maybe we could secede in blocks, maybe one huge block, maybe most of the Midwest and South?  Maybe liberals could move to liberal areas and conservatives move into the conservative areas?  Maybe it could start with one state declaring itself for either side and attracting like-minded people to it while the others move out.  They'd still try to kill us, but if we are all in one place we could probably get some decent defenses organized.   Just musing.

My friend says she didn't particularly have conservatives in mind when she mentioned hate speech and maybe she didn't but that means she doesn't really know what hate speech means from her own liberal frame of reference.   I wasn't going to say, of course, that it's a Marxist concept designed for character assassination of the opponent, but maybe I could at least have said it demonizes ordinary conservative politics, but as usual I don't think on my feet very well.  There are many levels of confusion in all this and sorting them out is beyond most of us.  Then we discussed Hydroxychloroquine some, since being able to discuss that is my main reason I'd like to get into a safe form of social media.  She's been persuaded by my arguments about that, or so I thought, but then she pretty much said she didn't think I'd accept it if I saw a really good argument against it.  And that's another punch in the stomach.  I'm persuaded by the evidence, I'm not avoiding evidence.  The evidence against it is bad, some of it rotten, even made up, the evidence for it is excellent.  

Another punch, which I'm sure she didn't mean as a punch but just a statement of her opinion, was that she thinks Trump is guilty of treason and of course I was off guard or upset enough not to find out what on earth she had in mind.  Should just ask and shut up but I didn't, so I don't know.  I do know the Left is treasonous to the core and the voter fraud is itself treason. I don't like being punched in the stomach.  I want to secede.  Better yet, I want the Rapture to come, like tomorrow.

Then she sent me a couple of links, one to a list of things Trump has done that conservatives regard as good things, another a list of things imputed to him that liberals think are bad.   I'm sure she disagrees with most of the positive list and i disagree with all of the leftist list.  Many of them are lies, many of them are standard conservative politics the left demonizes etc.  The radical differences in the two points of view are glaring, good reason for secession in my opinion.  Maybe I'll post some of it eventually.


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I'm going to put a link here to a video I think I've posred before, that I wanted to add to my Feed Your Head post but something has happened that prevents adding to it and it's relevant enough here.  This is the "walkaway" video by the young woman named Georgia who explains what she used to think about conservatives and how she changed her mind.   I Was Wrong About the Democratic Party.

I was wrong about the Democratic Party #walkaway - YouTube