Monday, June 20, 2022

Jordan Peterson: Would you Tkae Seriously a Warning From an Obscure IBlogger About Psychologizing God's Wo?

It just hit me this afternoon and of course it will sound crazy to many people but I feel obliged to write about it. I'd send an email but I can't see well enough to do the research to find that kind of information any more. I can't read much and websites are usually a confusing chaoes of images and unreadable print.

JORDAN PETERSON: After doing a few posts on you and your Bible series it hit me that what you wree doing is actually blasphemy. I'm slow on the uptake, I didn't catch that for a while. but whenever a person adds to or subtracts from the word of God we are warned that plagues will be added to our lives. That part is what just hit me about an hour ago because I know you've been sick for some time.

I'm glad you are better, I missed your voice on the internet like so many others deid, but now that I've seen some of your Bible series I'm worried that there is a cause and effect hjere that you wouldn't suspect and I even missed it myhself until now.

If you really want to live as if God exists, as you've said, please take this seriously. God does not let us get away with this kind of sin. You are actually defending the Bible in many ways, but since you are refusing to take it as written and imposing your own interpretations on it, treating the actual meaning as myth and offering metaphorical meanings instead, you are tampering with the actual word of God and that is very dangerous. I just hope that since you do it in ignorance you may be forgiven.

I wiswh I couodld write this to you personally. I hope that somehow someone who sees it might get it to you and that you would take it seriously. I know that is not too likely with people who believe in evolution and have dismissed the Bible as the actual revelation of God irbelievers know it to be, but if you have a concern about your own wellbeing, PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. God is not mocked.

Then I started wondering if Chrisopher Hitchens' untimely death had a similar cause. He actively ridiculed the Bible and its central teaching of Christ's death in the place of sinners.

I don't know the timing of Peterson's Bible series but I rthink it preceded his sickness in a way that is suggestie r of a connection.

It's rReally Modernity Not the Ancient World, tthat's Build on Myth Rather than Reality.

Enough of Jordan Peterson for now. He's got some interesting and useful ideas for how to live one's life that are apparently benefiting many people, but making the Bible represent those ideas is a sort of blasphemy. he's attracted to the Bible, that's obvious, he likes some of its teachings very much and doesn't even have to doublethink some of them, such as leaving father and mother and cleaving to spouse. That's practical wisdom for life in his thinking. But the Kingdom of God becomes your highest ideal, as does God himself, the highest good, the ennobling aim and so on.

That's what happens when modernity has stolen your ability to believe the bible as written, which so many of the thinkers of the nineteenth century did to us. You either just throw it out and don't give it a second thought or like Peterson who appreciates it as an ancient text containing wisdom even for today however pincomplete or however he sees that, then you just double think it and put your own best concepts in its place.

So they think we believers are just reifying -- making read -- what is really only mythical or an abstranction. So unsophsticated are we. Funny, it's really evolution that reifies what is really nothing but an imaginative construct. The whole thing is a mental construction that has no solid grounding in reality. but people get convinced of that idea and must throw out the Bible as a consequence. It really isn't that hard, at least once you see it, to recognize the utter nonsense of evolution, but the myth holds them spellboudn. ,br>
So a real Godis too much for them now.

Later: It really IS blasphemy, it's been nagging at me. You don't take God's word and substitute your own earthly wisdom in place of its truth, no matter how good your wisdom is in its right context. The Bible has p has plenty of wisdom for our current situation, the woke insanity, the identy politics insanity, the COVID nightmare insanity, the evolution insanity, but it's to be taken on its own terms, you don't make it mean something else.

Sunday, June 19, 2022

jORDAN pETERSON bIBLE SERIES 2

tHAT LAST POST IS A MESS BUT i'M PRAYING MORE NOW AND MAYBE THIS ONE WON'T BE. i HOPE. aNYWAY, THIS IS THE url TO THE WHOLE PAGE OF jORDAN pETERSON'S bIBLE SERIES AT yOU tUBE SINCE i'M NOT SURE i CAN EMBED ANY OF HIS VIDEOS SEPARATELY:

JjORDAN pETERSON bIBLE SERIES i'M SORRY, i REALLY CAN'T SEE WHAT i'M DOING. i SEE A WHITE EXPANSE WITH VAGUE GRAY LETTERS IN IT. mY EYES ARE BETTER ON SOME DAYS THAN OTHERS BUT TODAY IS A BAD ONE. nEVERTHELESS i'M GOING TO TRY TO WRITE SOMETHING ANYWAY.

iN THE FIRST TALK OF HIS SERIES pETERSON STARTS OUT TALKING ABOUT "WE" AS IN WE OF wESTERN cIVILIXATION BUT IT'S INTERESTING HOW HE DOESN'T COUNT bIBLICAL BELIEVERS AT ALL. "wE" APPARENTLY ISN'T US ALTHOUGH HE DOES THINK THAT THE bIBLE HASD A LOT TO DO WITH SHAPING WESTERN CIVILIZATION AND ONE OF HIS MOVIES, PERHAPS HIS MAIN MOTIVE, IN DOING THIS SERIES OF TALKS, IS TO EXPLORE WAYS WE MIGHT SAVE IT TODAY SINCE HE SSEEE S IT AS BEING DESTROYED. aS DO i. bUT OF COURSE TO MY MIND EXPLORING THE PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPLICATIONS OF THE bIBLE ACCORDING TO HIS WAY OF THINKING IS NOT GOING TO DO MUCH TO SAVE WESTERN CIVILIZATION. tHAT WOULD TAKE A REVIVAL OF THE TRUE MEANING OF THE bIBLE AND A RETURN TO THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE BELIEVERS. tHAT'S WHAT MADE THE WEST IN THE FIRST PLACE, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PRINCIPLES FOR DEVELOPING THE HUMAN PSCYHNHE, IT WAS ALL ABOUT BELIEVING IN THE gOD WHO GAVE US THE bIBLE, AND THE bIBLE AS gOD'S PLAN OF REDEMPTION OF US FALLEN HUMAN BEINGS. aLTHOUGH pETER'S PSYCHOLOGICAL CONCEPTS ARE INTERESTING THEY HAVE NOTHING WHATEVER TO DO WITH THE bIBLE. tHE BEST THAT MIGHT COME OF THEM IS TO REACQUAINT WESTERNERS WITH THE BEST THAT DID CREATE OUR CIVILIXATION, BUT NOT IF ALL THEY GET OUT OF IT IS WHAT pETERSON GETS OUT OF IT. ,BR> hE WONDERS HOW "WE" EVER BELIEVED IN IT AND HOW WE CAME NOT TO BELIEVE IN IT. gOOD GRIEF, IS HE EVEN HALF AWARE THAT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF US WHO DO BELIEVE IN IT? i GUESS WE JUST DON'T COUNT. wE'RE AS GOOD AS "DEPLORABLES" EVEN IN HIS EYES ALTHOUGH IN GENERAL HE'S NOT ON THAT SIDE OF THE CURRENT POLITICAL DIVIDE.

Jordan Peterson Shreds the b ible

NOTE: I'VE TRIED TWICE TO POST THE VIDEO OF pETERSON'S FIRST BIBLE TALK AND KEEP GETTING HE VIDEO OF DAVID ROHL'S TALK ON THE TIMING OF THE BOOK OF EXODUS. THAT'S INTERESTING TOO BUT OF COURSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS POST. HERE'S THE URL TO PETERSON'S VIDEO. i HO

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w&t=964s The thing about Jordan Peterson is that he's too interesting to dismiss lightly, although in some

tHE sense I want to rant and rave about how utterly vacuous is his understandeing of the Bible and Christianity. I end up having to recognize that what makes him interesting and een proflund is his psyuchological concepts completely apart from the Bible he hangs them on in his Bible lectures. ,br>

Those of us who believe the Bible as written he just sweeps away without the slightest sense that we have anything to contributge to the conversation at all. At all. He thinks the bible is an important document because he thinks such an ancient document must contain something valuable if only because he knows that it has played an important role in western Civilzat8ion. His idea of what is important is how the human psyche is put together, so he's looking for how the Bible must be a primitive source of the ideas that led to our complex personalities and culture today. He's looking for how it creates meaning and self consciousness for instance. He's very interesting at that kind of thing. He's just useless at knowing anything about the Bible's purpose.

He starts from evolutionarty theory so everything he says is run through that wrecking machine to begin with.

Saturday, June 18, 2022

Corrected Egyptian Time Line Affirms the Presence of the Israelites in Egypt During the Exodus Period

On a few of the atheist videos Christopher Hitchens mentioned that there is no evidence from archaeology for the biblical period of the Exodus or the the years spent by the Israelites in Egypt between Joseph and Mosess. Since there is at least one Egyptologist who has questioned that standard evidence or lack of it, which I posted on before, I want to bring that post up again, but there's also been a second interview with the same Egyptologist since then whilch I'll put up here:



These interviews were done by my Great nephew C Jay Cox, and here is also a film that presents this new evidence, "Patterns of evidence.: that I found on Amazon at the time of the first interview.

Here's what I wrote at that time: two posts on the subject.

https://watchpraystand.blogspot.com/search?q=Rohl+Egyptologist

Heres a way to say it maybe\

He's got a God Shaped Hole the size of the Grand Canyon but he's trying to fill it with himself.

His own prejudices and profound thoughts that is. And I like a lot of his opinions very much. But right nng as a barrier to finding God.

I remember en reading about religion for a couple of years ievver I suddenly understood that the truth was where Jerry Falwell lived and I was very prejudiced against Jerry Falwell. He represented my barrier.

Jordan Peterson, the Perils of Doublethink

Knew I should leave well enough alone but I had to post this other video of Peterson in the previous post and of course I goofed something up and right now I can't even listen to it. Oh well.

The thing about someone who has the kind of appreication of the bible and religion that Petedrson has is that he has to doublethink everything. He can't let it be what it is, he can't accept it as it is, the Bible is this "strange old book" that needs his modern perspective imposed on it. That's deadly for ever coming to a true understanding of God but in his case he does such a deep and passionate job of it, as I said in the other post, it's compelling in its own right. He has a profound appreciation for the human condition and that is admirable. He has a profound understanding of the role of the Bible in shap8ing the best in western civilization and that is admirable. He has a profound understanding of the need for each human being to embrace the best in culture for the purpose of self understanding and living with wisdom.

But the problem is that the "strange old book"

has to be read in simple faith and trust if you want to know God. If you doublethink it and impose your modern assumptions on it you maty get some very interesting and useful ideas for life out of it but you'll miss BGod completely.

Just thinking from the human point of view and forgetting for the moment that God must act in leading all of us to himself, I just wonder what it would take to jolt him out of his doublethinjk into the simple trust needed.