Trump, the RNC, Elon Musk

 I was in the kitchen making some tea, able to hear the radio in the living room from there, when there was an announcement of breaking news so I perked up m,y ears, and heard the first reports of the assassination attempt on Donal Trump.  He'd suddenly tropped down below the podiu,m while in the middle of a speech, holding a bloodied ear, or the side of his face, nothing was all that clear at the very beginning.  The announcer wsn't sure what had happened but thought he'd probably been shot.  I immiediatly thought, Oh no, they killed him.  

But then the word ame that he was OK and I was relieved, but it was a long minute or so before we got the description of his coming up to face he audience with his fist in the air, omouthing the word "fight "  and then I was really relieved.

It was so close we all knew it was God who had saved him.  there is no other explanation.  He turned his head at precisely the right second and the mbullet missed his skull and hit him in the ear.  That's god and thank You TLord that we now know you are having mercy on us after all.   

Then there was the Republican convention and I am surprised at how much I enjoyed the speeches I heard.  Very cheering, very hopebuilding.   It took some listening to You Tube interviews before I was convinced that J D Vance was a great pick for Vice President but I truly am convinced now.  I just wish he was a free market capitalist instead of whatever that economic weird system is he ascribes to, and I wish when he decided to become a Christian he hadn't gone for Catholicism.  But otherwise he's very much the right choice for trump.

I think my favorite speech of them wall was Ben Carson's and I've lstened over to it a umber of times.  He starts out quoting Isaiah No weapeon formed against you will prosper, nd ends with the quote possibly misattributed to Alexis deToqueveille, though it really doesn't matter since it's a good summation of what Toqueville wrote:  America is great because America is good.  So let's make America good again.    America is no longer so good unforetunately, but the hope is that maybe God will guide us back o it.  

The other main thing I've been thinking about recently is Elon Musk who has come out and endorsed Trump an pledged forty five million a month to his election.  A lot of ehat Musk says makes me very happy but when he gets into things like crypto currency and AI it sets my teeth on edge, mainly I supposed because I don't understand either.  He's super brilliant and his heardt seems to be in the right place when it comes to caring about the future of huimanity and the future of western civilization so I can't really say anything against it.  It just sets my teeth on edge.  

I don't know if Musk has any spiritual inclincations at all, but it's pretty clear he's no Christian at least not in the orthodox sense.  Liek so many brilliant people he's got all his concerns in this world, thinking in terns of making other planets habitable when this wone loses its sustainability for humanity and tht sort of thing.  I don't think anyone with any biblical frame of reference could uentertain such a thought.  This world is the fallen world, it's not the world we are meant to live in.  It's a waystation now to an eternity either in Heaven or in Hell, and that's the only option availble.  Not believing anyh of that of course does not make it untrue, but to the secular mind Christianity is just another religion and this world is all there is and religion just gets in the wayh of threir ambitions for this world.

Later:  I'm adding this much later though what I want to add it simomething I simply forgot to include ihn the original writieng, which is the stepping down of Biden from running for President.   That was annonced ohn Sunday after days of back and forth by the Democrats about whether or not he should step down.  Plus ishis sutubborn refusal to step down.   I don't think there's anyone else who wuld be more popular or pose more of a threat to Trump than Biden, unless it might be Michelle Obama, but although I've been generally more optimjistic since god's savihng Trump's life I nevertheless have doubts that linger on.  Very much because I know the nation is under god's judgment and although He shows us mercies here and there it's hard to imagine that without a major rependance of the nation that He'd take us much farther back than we are.  MAYBE He'd give us another Trump Presidency but even if He did it would be burdened with all the harassment and interference the first one was because the Democrats are determined to destroy him and destroy the country and disenfranchise my half of the polit8ical population.    Without a major rependtance I can't see that God would intervene to reinstate us as the great and good nation we once were.  I'd love to be wrong.  

Sunday night I heard some of Talk Show Host Bill no no Cumings but I can't think of his name, having another senior moment which are becoming way too frequent.  Bill somjething that starts with a C anyhwya.  The Great American he calls himself, which always makes me cringe.  Why do they give themselves such titlces anyway.  Anyway he said that although it's possible, speaking from a humban oint of view, for Trump to pull off a win considering that he has such a good start, it's going to be an uphill battle because the Democrat Machine as he calls it is powerful and very efficient at manipulating elections.  Which is yes, the sort of thing I would expect to kick in at this poinht.  And if, or really because, he are under God's judmgent, there is no reason for Him to interfere with that.  Again, only a massive turning back to god in repentance could possible turn the tigde at this point.    Abd agaubm eveb uf ge wubsm wgucbg wiykd be a great bkessubg ti tge ciybtrtym and again, even if he wins, which would be a great blessing to the country, the Democrats won't leave him alone because they have no respect for America, for voters, for anything we oh the right care most about, they jyust want to destroy everything that gets in the way of their own power and wealth.

So.  Biden has stepped down but I don't see anyitng very good coming from that.  Or from his staying for that matter.

I have one more thing to add here which was also on my mind when I wrote this post though it has nothihjhg to do with politics and that's an interview I heard by Piers Morgan of the author of a new book about Ted Bundy, the author being Bundy's cousin who knew him very well and afte ffifty heyuears finally decided to tell her story.  I won't be reading the book of course and I really only have one thing I want to note about what she had to say.  She describes Budy's coming to her door once and her dog acting violently disturbed by his presence as if he or she sensed something about him, and I noted in my own reading about Bundya a few few years ago that dogs barded and growledged at him.  Then there was her having seen him dancing with one of her freiends at a party once and his face was twisted in an angry grimace and his eyes were not their usual blue but solid glblack.  That too is a feature that was reported in other things I've read about Bundy.  One thing she didn't mention was the sorrority girl who was going out of her room into the hall of her dormitory late at night to bget something and was frightened by a sense of pure evil in the hall, driving her back into her room and locking the door.  TGhe next morning two of her dorm mates were dead.  that same night some olf the girls returning home noticed that the housemother's cat was all bristled out and stnading on titptoes the wsay cats tdo whtne they are scared, and when the door was opened it bolted out and didn't come back for over a wekk as I recall.  

All these things suggest that bundy sort of emancated something evil that animals felt and ven people at times.  And that it turned his eyes black.  Whatg would turn his eyes black>?  I haven't read an explanation of that anywhere.  Was it the expansion of his pulils to comjpletely displace the iris?  the puils expand to let in more lifth.  Was he looking into a very dark place at those moments which causesd that to happen?  I don't know.  I don't know if that explains the black eyes to start with, it's jut the only thing I can't think of.  But the best explanation for all of that seems to me to be that he was possessed by a demon, a particularly evil amalevolent vicious sadistic murderous demon.  I think there are many people who are considered to be mentally disturbed who are demon possessed but of course nobody takes that idea seriously.  Too bad.

star of bethlehem

I was thinking about the Star of Bethlehem film recently, which I've talked about here before, and wanted to see it again to check out some questions I have, but just because I enjoy the film too.  It's been taken off You Tube and what comes up under that title is something that claims the popular view is flawed, doesn't stand up to scrutiny.  That annoyed me and I just tuned it out.  Yeah I guess I should have stuck it out to see if they say more but atually I'm pretty sure they don't, they just wmake that remark and go on with their own presentation which I'm not interested in watching right now.  

Then I found some guy doing a podcast to debunk the Larson film, the Larson film being the one I watn to watch, and he misrepresentes it right out of the gate:  says that Larson claims that the conjunction of Juptiure with Regulus is what th wise men saw, presumably claiming that is the Star of Bethlehme.  no no no and more no90.  Good grief the guy can't even get that much straight.  Noi.  That particular conjunction is very ineteresting but it's presented as a sort of celestial annoyuncement of the coming birth which is foollowed by the sign of Virgo with the image of the virgin clothed in the sun with the moon at her feet, which Larson conclusdes is porbably the conception of the Messiah.  AFTWER the Jupiter Regulus conjucntion which seems to be a sort of herald of such coming events.  

The star itself comes nine months are the image of the virgin with the moon at her feet, occurs in June of three, no I think two b.c. an isa conunction of Jupiter with Venus.  NOT Jupiter with Refulus.  The guy obviously didn't watch the film at all, or didn't pay any attention to it if he watched it.  The Jupiter Venus conjunction is a very likely candidate forthe Star because it's been recognized as the brightest celectial object in the sky EVER according to Larson, recogvnized by astronomers.   And its ocurring nine months after the very lilkely date of the conception, when gabriel announced the pregnancy to Marry, the virgin with the moon at her feet, which is described in Revelation Twelve and libeterally d3epicted in the sky on Rosh Hashanah of Two BC, or three, I can't keep that straight, anyway that timing makes the MJupiter Venius conjustion very very likely to my mind.  And Larson does do a ood job of making that case.  

I know, I'm impatient, a sin I must overcome.  So I didn't stick it out long enough to find out that guy's name who got it so wrong, just as I didn't watch any more of that other film.  Oh well,.   I still want to see Larson's film again and I can't find my own DVD of it but maybe I can borrow it bfrom my brother.

There's more to the film than the revelation of the likely star, a lot more.  I'm so sick of debunkers who don't know what they are talking about.

Later:  Heard just a bit more of that guy who already made the huge mistake of sayinhg Larson claims Jupiter Regulus was the Start which he did not.  Then he says Larson claimsed that the biblical reference to the magi seeing the star in the east means risin gin the east which he did not say as I recall, of if he did it was as a possible alrtternative, because what he did say is that it probably means they were IN the east and seeing the start from there ishich is what this bguy didecides is the case witout noticing that that's what Larson said.    Then he goes on to object to Larson's referring to the childkd the Magi saw as a toddler, and that bothered me too but because I count only six months from his bith which wouldn't make him a toddler yet, but this guy is saying something else and I dind't find out what and don't case.re .  

He also says that retrograde motion is not a planet stopping, which is another really really stupid misrepresentaiton of what Larson said.  HLarson was trying to explain who the star could stop over the town o Bethleheme and he realized that it was at that point that Jupiter went into retrograde, and that AT THAT POINT WHEN THE DIRECFTION FO MOVEMENT C HANGEWD, not DUIRNG retrogrtade but at the moment the direction changed, that the planet would appear to stop AT THAT POINT.    This guy's name is not visible to me unfortunately because I'd love to be able to write it out and get him blasted.

\He's destroying Larson's reputation and getting it all wrong.  This makes me mad.

More About the Antichrist Pope

Hitler's Third Reich was a claim to be the next version of the Roman Empire after the Holy Roman Empire which was basically an extension of the Roman Catholic Church itself.  Hitler was a Catholic, and the Pope didn't have the role of Antichrist as he had it in the earlier version of the empire, but he played a part in his support of Hitler and His role in the organizing of the "ratlines" which were the steady stream of Nazis  to South America after the war to escape prosecution for war crimes.  Hitler also says somewhere that he modeled the Holocaust on the Inquisition.  

So the European Union will be the Fourth Reich or fourth version of the Roman Empire if we follow this trend.  The point is that the Roman Empire has most certainly BEEN revived, we do not need to wait for that event, even for the rising of the European vresion to full prominence in thta role.  It's been revived.  The scriptre that leasds to that expectation has been fulfilled, we do not need to wait for its fulfillment.  

Same with the Great Apostasy.  That was understood by the Protestant Reformers to be the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church istself, as it accumulated the pagan trappings of the Roman Empire at its predecessors and gradually let them eclipse the Christian elements.  It abaonded the Bible and forbade people to have it in their own languages.  It preserved some of the imagery from it but lost most of the substance.  All this is in the book History of Romanism by Dowling I believe.  The rosary comes from the pagan religions, it is not a Christian element.  The image of mother and child also comes from the pagan religions, going back to Nimrod and Simiramis, which can be traced in the book The Two Babylons by Hislop.  The Catholoic Church with its Bishop usurping the title of head of the Church is certainly the heir of the pagan empires.

And those are depicted in the statue of Nebuchadnezzr's dream given in Daniel Two, which shows the succession of the pagan empires from Babylon through MedoPrsion through Greece under Alexander to the Roman Empire.  And the Roman Empire with its heritage from the earlier three is depicted in the beast that rises from thesea in Revelation Thirteen, shown by the symbols of the lion, the bear and the Leopard which all appear in othe visions from the book of Daniel that describe these successive empires.  

So the Antichrist has been revealed, as Paul said he would be after the great falling away or grea apostasy.  The bishop of Roman  Rome, who usupried the position from three other bishops and made himself into a uasi emperor reigning over what came o be known as the Holy Roman EWmpire, names of coruse for the Church that was its core.  We're just waiting for the last one, the lst Pope, after which the great tribulation is to occur.    

Oh and the beast from the esea has the number six six six and since that number fits the most pertinent and blasphemous title of the Pope, vicarius Filii Dei, being the addition of the latin n....roman numberals in the latin title which is in iteslf a deription of the antichrist as substitute for the son of goGod, the Pope isn't oing to be the false prophet.  He must be the Antichrist because that t's the nubmer of the Antichrist.  Gosh it's all Roman, all Latin, and it all ....    

The great harlot is another element in the story.  Babylon the Great is a reerence to the stue with the gold head or Babylon at the top and the Roman Empire in the feet and legs, sitting on a city of seven mountains which of course is Rome.  And there are two legs, the other being understood by many to refer to Islam which arose about the same time as the Bishop of Rome.  two religions that persueute hertics to maintain power.  

It all works together.  We don't need to wait for any further revelation of these things.  The Great Apostasy continues today as the churches are going through an apostasy to add to the earlier Roman apostasy, the Popes continue, the pagan trappings of the Roman Church Continue.  We're just waiting for the finale.  Or perhaps not "we" since if the pretrib scenario is correct the treue Church will have been raptired away from all this.

Catholic Uprisings in Ireland Not what the Catholics Think it Is.

 I want to write something here that may need some correcting later, I hope not much and it may not be much but since I'm going to be writing blind as it were I don't know fur sure.  I did my best considering my literal blindness to research this a little but was unable to make any headway, which is why I'm going to write it blind and hope for the best.   It's risky because it's oging to sound limkeke Catholic bashing to some.  And of course I am biased, being a Protetstant, but I would protest that I' am biased because of what I learned that I'm going to be writing about and was not beiased before I learned it.  So it's not a bias jut built into the situation at all, and perhaps the word doesn't even really apply, it's just that I know some would read it that way.

So.  On the radio Sunday evening I heard talk show host Bill Cunningham talk about his feelings as an Irishman against the Enlgish who accoreding to him killed a third of the Irish over the years out of csheer hatred for their Catholic religion.  YUes he's catholic.  If I ever knew much about the history fo all that I've forgotten it and was aunable to find anything on it in my brief attempt to research it.  What I remember is some years ago finding a talk given by a Protestant Irishman, or that's what I think he said he was, about the historyu of the conflicts in Ireland up through the IRA and all that.  He said that the Catholics are given some false propaganda about all that in order to see themselves as victims in the vonconficts but that as a matter of afact all the conflicts are always started by the raoman Catholic Church and then some are made to look like the Protestants started them.    The Catholics initiate some violence and then the English were forced to bring in tropps to put down the disturbance.  Apprearently that happened many times and there was a lot of bloodshed, but it was always Catholic uprising and English police or military intervention.

One thing that doesn't sound right at all in what Cunningham said is that the English would persecute the Catholics for being Catholic.  That just insn'ta Protestant thing at all.  It's a Catholic thing, however, an official insititutional Catholic thing, to persecute and kill what they consider to be heretics.  It's not that Protestants never engage in such things of course, but it is true that there is no Protestant policy of any sort along those lines while there most definitely is in the Catholic Church.  Inquisition continues wherever they have any way to let it continue.  A Catholic tried to lbloe w up the EnlgishParliament I think in King James's day, celebrated in Englishand as Guy GffAwkes Day though along with all the diminishing of true righteousness in this world that has been less celebrated in recent years as I understand it.  Pope John Paul went to Englihs and had the arrogant chutz;pah to treat Catholics as martyrs who had been exsecute d for crimes against the nation of Englisand.  

Anway, I'm sticking my neck out here to suggest that Bill Cunningham is a victim of the usual propaganda that makes the Irish Catholics the victims and the English the perseuctors althoguh as a matter of actual fact the Catholic Church is behind all the violence i Ireland forever.

Later note:  Chris Pinto has often been my source for information about these things but I'm unable to acces his website any more, or at least it's so difficult to get to it I don't try very often, so Icouldn't look up with he has on this subject.  Hemay hae been the source for this information in the first place, probably was.  

Lost Power, Can Wew Get it Back\\\\

 Just as I'm surprised to find myself reconsidering the question of divine healing, and am now praying for it and continuing to follow the writers on that subject, I'm also surprised to find myself reconsidering the question of the baptism of thed Holy Spirit.  This is another of those  controversial issues that has the church split into factions, some saying that was only for the apostolic era, a time when presumably they needed more miracles than we do, or simply the time when Jesus was being established as the Messiah through such miracles, and\\\, between that and the view that , as with divine healing, the baptism of rht eHoly PSPirit is also for us today.   

Andrew Murray, but particularly R. A. Torrey, have done a good job of convincing me that thebaptism is indeed for today, just as Murray convinced me that so is divine healing for today, and infact part of redembption, Christ forgivng our sins nin pratically the same breath as he heals our diseases in scripture after scripture.  The case for the baptism in the Spirit is made most particularly from Acts two where Peter tells the doubting Jews that the gift is for not only themselves but for their children and for those who are afar off whom the Lord will yet call.  That is so clear it is a wonder anyone can claim that the gift is meant only for the apostonlic age and not for us as well.

The main thing that has made me open to these arguments is the simple observation that the Church today is weak, that we have nothing remotely like the spiritual power of the early Church, and that individually we don't have anyone who exhibits such power either.  I'm aware that there are many vexed questions about these things still of course, and I'm still convinced that the charismatic movement for the most part is folowing a false idea of the spiritual gifts, but nevertheless I am now entertaining the idea that there is a true version of the gifts that God has not withdrawn from today's shcurch weven if we haven't known how to appropriate them and make use of them.  This is an issue because it was at Pentecost that the earlie church received the baptism o the Holy Spirit and it bestowed all the gifts on them that are now claimed by the charismatics though what they actually seem to have are something else than those gifts.

But oh how we need the power for the Holy Spirit today.  I'm praying for both the supernatural healing which I'm now convinced is for us today, and for the baptism in the Holy spirit.

Antichrist Pope

 When I hear someone say that the Antichrist is going to come out of the Revived Roan Empire and we don't know who he is yet, I just get all triggered or somethihg and have to give my own differing view of this.  Based on the Protestant Reformers view of the antichrist as the Pope.  We know who the Antichrist is, and this particular Pope is an Anitchrist just through his vblieevefs and corruptioj even of Roman catholic tenets.  There may yet be another, the final, antichrist to come, the next Pope, but the pope is the ntichrist and we know who he is, we don't have to wiat for him to be revealed.  And as the Reformers understood it, the revived roman empire was creted by the Pope when that office got underway centuires ago, the Holy Roman empire.  This revived empire isn't completely dead and is being revived itself in the new European Union, but the point is it already existes.  It needs to be brought back to9 prominence and the Pope will also rise again to preeminence in the world s he was during all t

\This isn't just an aca\demic point I'm making.  If the Pope is not recognized as the antichrist he is he can operate without opposition and the roman Church can continue as if it were just another Christian denomination, which history shows it is not.  but nobody reads the history of the church any more so of course history will onoly be repeated without anyone seeing it coming.  If you don't recognize the enemy then the enemy gets the upp-er hand over you.  Nice position to be in as we wait for the last days to bring it all to the fore.  catholics aren't going to be warned in time and will struggle mightily to get free of their bondage to the false church.  they need to be warned now.  Protestants are no longer Protestants either, but too many are even favorable to the Pope and the romn Church, ignorant of history.  

A majory struggle of Catholics will be over their confusion when they miss the Rapture.  they may fall for the lie and rationalize it away sbecause they believe they are the true Christians, or they may see that they must not be and the fonfusion will overtaken them and the strugle to sort all that out is going to be a huge turmoil.  

Divine Healing Revisited

 Never would have thought I'd be reconsidering this topic, especially at suchj an age when deth is about the only thing I'd normaly expect to be on my upcoming events calendar.  SAnd not through Andrew Murray either, a writer I appreiciate up to a point, but who usually manages to leave me feeling overwshelmed by a million impossible conditions that need to be fulfilled in order to qualifiy for whatever Christian virture he is writing about, which always end in having to abandon the project he may have at first inspired me to consider.  

the same happens with this topic but it seems to go in waves so that after a plunge into the usual despair I find him offering the encouragement I need by emphasizing that the lord Himself undertakes most of the requirements that usually ubury me before I gt very far into the topic.  So I've been able to read his bbook on this subject a number of times and find it building up my faith instead of dumping me unceremoniously into the gutter where Christians who can't muster the necessary faith or perseverence tend up.  

It's a book of sepearate meditations his did on the subject of supenatuiral healing, rather than a n organized book, but i's arranged welle jough to bulid up the case even if csome of it doulbes back on itself from time to time.  IAnyway, I've actually comje through rereading this book to entertain the possibility that the Lord myight actually heal me of my many infirmities even at the old age of eighty two, sol that I could live a more active Christian life for some years yet to come.  Yes, he is that persuasive.

Healing f t body is a part of the plan of redemption according to his main argument, and this is in fact illustrated by the fact that therer are many biblical passages wshere the two are spoken of in the same sentence with the imjplication that they are almost synonymous, or at lest strongly connected to each other.  One of those many things to be discovered in the Bible that we overlook even if we read and reread it many timnes.  Unless the Lord draws it to our attention, having schosen us for some work connected ith a particular idea.  

Itecame clear  early on that he confuseds the phenomena of supernatural healing, or in fact any supernatural gift, with the spiritual gifts givingen to individuals in the early church.  This has to be said because those who deny that the supernatural gifts have contuinued into the present nevertheless do not reject the fact that God may still perform miraculous and supernatural feats .  As a matter of fact suchj events are also extremely rare and he is right to point out that the Church has lost faith that even these things are offered to us anu more.  

those wsho believe in the fgifts for today can be very annoying with their aggressive insistence that they must be manifested with the gift of tongues, and in the case of the gift of healing that all failures to be healed are due to a scurrilous lack of faith on the part of the sick person.  Murray avoids any such attitude for which I'm grateful.  But he does succeed in confincing me that it is a lack of faith that is depriving today's Christians of healing that gid does in fact want us to have, and he aims much of his book toward restroing that faith in us.  this is quite necessary since faith requries some conviction that god does in fact want us to have this healing and will give it to us if we meed t scertain conditions.  We need to be persuaded that the evidence that god has that will toward us is there in the Bible, and Murray is gdoig a surprisingly good job of convincing me ot that.

He is very awqare that after such a long timne of bijg persuaded that we are not to expect god to give us such healings that it would take a lot of time and much evidence to change our way of looking at it.  We think we are persuaded by biblical evidence so we need bettwer biblical evidence that we've been wrong and that infact we can expect and should expect such healings.    for me reading the book over and over is having the effect of building up that evidence and therefore some degree of faith that I might indeed look for such a divine healing of my many infirmities, pearticularly of course my macular degeneration, but alo my arthritic hips that have onfined me to the use of a walker for many years, and many other malaises that make my life less than available for active work for God.  

Th that wiat upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall rise on wings of eagles, they shall walk and not be earing   they no no, they ahshalll run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint.  Oh to claim that one.  

Im'm sucre I'll hav emore to say about all this as time godes on, Lord Willing,.

Later:  Maurray has even made me think it's possible that we c ould have the individual spiritual gifts today as well as miracles from time to time as I think everone agrees is possible, but the fact is that the charistmatics who claim those gifts do not exhibit those gifts but somne kind of counterfeit of them.  I found Watchmjan Nee's concept of Soul Power the most useful way of thinking about his.  that is, it seems that the charismatics are mistaking this sould power for the power of the indwelling sirit.  the tongues that I experienced were some kind of mockeriny of language for instance, which makes it hard for me to accept the claims of some that they are praying in the spirit when they use such a togue.  What is called prophecy is rell psychic power, a power of the soul that can be developed under certain circumstances, a remnant of powers possessed by Adam and Eve but lost at the Fall, and now no doubt available only in a distorted form to some wsho possess them today or have them more strongly than others do.  this is not the Holy Spirit, it is part of the natural man or the sin nature, the flesh and so on.  There seem to be powers of healings too and I suppose they are also soulish and limited to whatever Satan is able to bring about but I don't really know in that case, just that they too don't seem to have the power or scope of the healings fromn the holy Spirit as we see in the sri8ptures for instance.  A piece of evidence that Nee is right as I see it was his observatio that laugjter hacan overtake a crowed of Christians and be mistaken for something spiritual, and since we had a Laugjtoing revival back in the nineties that was misrepresented in the same way I am very grateful for Nee's bringing that up, and it adds credibiltiy to his general discussion of the soul powers as poopposed to the spiritual powers we receive upon being born again.

While as I said it is possible that God has not ceased to give spiritul gifts just as He gives the everyday gifts we all recovnize such as teahcing and preaching and helps and administration and so on, the fact seems to be thta the actual expression of what are called the gifts does not fit the scriptural presentation and if they are bogus then that is evidence that they did ceasese.  Miracles in general didn't cease but the psiritual gifts may have and that seems to have been the most reaxonable conclusion to be taken from the Strange Fire Conference at John MacArthur's church some years ago.

Divine healing is not tied to persons so far as Murray has been presenting it in his gbook, it is something the elders can impart as per James five, or we can pray for on our own, god granting it in answer to such prayer.  Such healers as Kathryn Kuhlman have many makes of being frauds, lthough as I said it may still be possible that god would grant such a gift to an individual.