Monday, July 1, 2024

Divine Healing Revisited

 Never would have thought I'd be reconsidering this topic, especially at suchj an age when deth is about the only thing I'd normaly expect to be on my upcoming events calendar.  SAnd not through Andrew Murray either, a writer I appreiciate up to a point, but who usually manages to leave me feeling overwshelmed by a million impossible conditions that need to be fulfilled in order to qualifiy for whatever Christian virture he is writing about, which always end in having to abandon the project he may have at first inspired me to consider.  

the same happens with this topic but it seems to go in waves so that after a plunge into the usual despair I find him offering the encouragement I need by emphasizing that the lord Himself undertakes most of the requirements that usually ubury me before I gt very far into the topic.  So I've been able to read his bbook on this subject a number of times and find it building up my faith instead of dumping me unceremoniously into the gutter where Christians who can't muster the necessary faith or perseverence tend up.  

It's a book of sepearate meditations his did on the subject of supenatuiral healing, rather than a n organized book, but i's arranged welle jough to bulid up the case even if csome of it doulbes back on itself from time to time.  IAnyway, I've actually comje through rereading this book to entertain the possibility that the Lord myight actually heal me of my many infirmities even at the old age of eighty two, sol that I could live a more active Christian life for some years yet to come.  Yes, he is that persuasive.

Healing f t body is a part of the plan of redemption according to his main argument, and this is in fact illustrated by the fact that therer are many biblical passages wshere the two are spoken of in the same sentence with the imjplication that they are almost synonymous, or at lest strongly connected to each other.  One of those many things to be discovered in the Bible that we overlook even if we read and reread it many timnes.  Unless the Lord draws it to our attention, having schosen us for some work connected ith a particular idea.  

Itecame clear  early on that he confuseds the phenomena of supernatural healing, or in fact any supernatural gift, with the spiritual gifts givingen to individuals in the early church.  This has to be said because those who deny that the supernatural gifts have contuinued into the present nevertheless do not reject the fact that God may still perform miraculous and supernatural feats .  As a matter of fact suchj events are also extremely rare and he is right to point out that the Church has lost faith that even these things are offered to us anu more.  

those wsho believe in the fgifts for today can be very annoying with their aggressive insistence that they must be manifested with the gift of tongues, and in the case of the gift of healing that all failures to be healed are due to a scurrilous lack of faith on the part of the sick person.  Murray avoids any such attitude for which I'm grateful.  But he does succeed in confincing me that it is a lack of faith that is depriving today's Christians of healing that gid does in fact want us to have, and he aims much of his book toward restroing that faith in us.  this is quite necessary since faith requries some conviction that god does in fact want us to have this healing and will give it to us if we meed t scertain conditions.  We need to be persuaded that the evidence that god has that will toward us is there in the Bible, and Murray is gdoig a surprisingly good job of convincing me ot that.

He is very awqare that after such a long timne of bijg persuaded that we are not to expect god to give us such healings that it would take a lot of time and much evidence to change our way of looking at it.  We think we are persuaded by biblical evidence so we need bettwer biblical evidence that we've been wrong and that infact we can expect and should expect such healings.    for me reading the book over and over is having the effect of building up that evidence and therefore some degree of faith that I might indeed look for such a divine healing of my many infirmities, pearticularly of course my macular degeneration, but alo my arthritic hips that have onfined me to the use of a walker for many years, and many other malaises that make my life less than available for active work for God.  

Th that wiat upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall rise on wings of eagles, they shall walk and not be earing   they no no, they ahshalll run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint.  Oh to claim that one.  

Im'm sucre I'll hav emore to say about all this as time godes on, Lord Willing,.



Later:  Maurray has even made me think it's possible that we c ould have the individual spiritual gifts today as well as miracles from time to time as I think everone agrees is possible, but the fact is that the charistmatics who claim those gifts do not exhibit those gifts but somne kind of counterfeit of them.  I found Watchmjan Nee's concept of Soul Power the most useful way of thinking about his.  that is, it seems that the charismatics are mistaking this sould power for the power of the indwelling sirit.  the tongues that I experienced were some kind of mockeriny of language for instance, which makes it hard for me to accept the claims of some that they are praying in the spirit when they use such a togue.  What is called prophecy is rell psychic power, a power of the soul that can be developed under certain circumstances, a remnant of powers possessed by Adam and Eve but lost at the Fall, and now no doubt available only in a distorted form to some wsho possess them today or have them more strongly than others do.  this is not the Holy Spirit, it is part of the natural man or the sin nature, the flesh and so on.  There seem to be powers of healings too and I suppose they are also soulish and limited to whatever Satan is able to bring about but I don't really know in that case, just that they too don't seem to have the power or scope of the healings fromn the holy Spirit as we see in the sri8ptures for instance.  A piece of evidence that Nee is right as I see it was his observatio that laugjter hacan overtake a crowed of Christians and be mistaken for something spiritual, and since we had a Laugjtoing revival back in the nineties that was misrepresented in the same way I am very grateful for Nee's bringing that up, and it adds credibiltiy to his general discussion of the soul powers as poopposed to the spiritual powers we receive upon being born again.


While as I said it is possible that God has not ceased to give spiritul gifts just as He gives the everyday gifts we all recovnize such as teahcing and preaching and helps and administration and so on, the fact seems to be thta the actual expression of what are called the gifts does not fit the scriptural presentation and if they are bogus then that is evidence that they did ceasese.  Miracles in general didn't cease but the psiritual gifts may have and that seems to have been the most reaxonable conclusion to be taken from the Strange Fire Conference at John MacArthur's church some years ago.


Divine healing is not tied to persons so far as Murray has been presenting it in his gbook, it is something the elders can impart as per James five, or we can pray for on our own, god granting it in answer to such prayer.  Such healers as Kathryn Kuhlman have many makes of being frauds, lthough as I said it may still be possible that god would grant such a gift to an individual.

Saturday, June 22, 2024

Evil Just Keeps growing, and being called good.

 Jan Markell's weekly program, Undersanding the times radio, this week is about the rise in the dark side, things of the occult, satanism and so on.  the first storty is about a satanic image that was installed facing a Christimas navtivity scene in Iowa that was removed by a man acting independently and then turned himself in to face the legal consequences.  the image had been there for a couple of weeks despite many complaints from the public, but onbody in government woujld do anything to take it down.  


Why?  they were afraid.  Afreaid of the usual noisy repercussions from the left for any righteous act anyone does these days.    this has got to stop.  I'm sick of heareing about cowards on the right side of things.  It takes one lone man to step up and risk his own wellbeing while elected officials do nothing.  At least that one man was available.  Such men are hard to find these days also.  So evil proliferates because everybody is too intimidated to do anything abouty it.  

Tuesday, June 18, 2024

Falleness Has Won, Satan has Won, America i Gone,

Just heard that a Hindu deity was invoked in a recent meeting of Congress.  Maybe while I was in the hospital or rehab, which would explain why I did't hear of it I suppose.  Anyway, just another proof that the country is going to Hell, or is already halfway there.  Some state or other erected some sort of monument to Satah a while back too.  the Pope visited Congress a few years ago.  Obviously the fallen nature is now in charge of America and We've lost our Christian roots probably beyond recovery by ow.  the powers of darkness are in charge.  the hostility to Christianity is pretty deep.  Lacking the ability to sense the presence of the true god because they are fallen and therefore inherited the loss of the spiritual faculty for knowing God from Adam and Eve, and now lacking any serious claim on their attention to the tenets of biblical truth, the authorities that run the country happily embrace evil, calling it good of coruse.  

It's all of a picece with the imminence of the playig out of the last seven yers of planet earth kjowinn as the tribulation period.  The most popular end times scenario has th Church being raptured to heaven before all that begins, and then the fallen ones will be the only onces left on earth to face a horrendous destruction of the planet and respohd either with indignant reejection or possibly repentance and faith in God.  It can happen even then, though of course wiit will be the hardest way for it to happen.

that's all I can hope for many I wish would be saved, unfortunately.  That they will be saved that hardest of hard ways at les.t  If they maintain their arrogant rejection of God then then ere is no hope for them and that's sad.

Monday, June 17, 2024

A World of Lies

I'm sick of the lies.  No point in saying it I suppose, but there it is.  Im' sick of the lies about Trump and you never hear anything but lies from the Democrats.  Ever.  All of it is lies.  And half the country abelieve them.  So down we go under a hailstorm of lies.  Down dosn down we go.

And I hate the lies from the worldly religions who appropriate Jesus Christ into their own miserable philosophies.  they think they are spiritual although they can't be becaue the spirit diesd at the Fasll and is only recovered through beliewving in the death of Christ for our sins.  Then you are born again which means your spirit is rebgenerated, or quickened as the King James puts it.  Without thta new birth all based on Christ's crucificxion there is no spiritual life possibl4e.  What is called spirtual is just a refined sort of soulishness.

But they are always saying Christ went to India although there isz no proof eswhatever for such an idea.   And if they knew the biblical portrait of HIm they would have to admit that the idea is reidiculous but they prefer their conc3eit without any shred of knowledge about Him.  He has nothing in common with the big names of Biuddishm or Hinduism, no thing whatever in common, nada.  It is offensive that they tell such lies and don't both ter to say the slightest thing based on knowelxdge.  Well that's becauase they have no knowledge.  The only source of knowledge of Christ is the Bible, and if there were any evidence of their proposterous claims that's where you'd find it but it doesn't exist.  


Incredible condeit.  jesus is the fulfillment of the Old Testament. completely a Jew within the Jewish traditions, the fulfillment of the messianic promises throughout their history.  It is idiotic to try to put him in India or anyplace other than Israel.  Idiotic in the extreme.  Pure idiotic conceit.

Saturday, June 15, 2024

hOW ARE WE TO CONSTRUE THE WORKS PASSAES IN THE nEW TESTAMENT?

tHERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING OF A PUZZLE FOR ME AND i THINK FOR OTHER cHRISTIANS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE TAUGHT THAT SALVATION IS COMPLETELY BY GRACE ALONE WITHOUT WORKS OF ANY SORT, WHILE MUCH OF THE TEACHING IN THE nEW tESTAMENT SEEMS TO REQUIRE SOME KIND OF WORKS OF US.  tHE rFORMED cHURCHES AND FOR THT MATTER MOST CHURCHES TEACH SALVATION AS INCORPORATION ALL THOSE PASSAGES WHERE WE ARE TOLD WE MUCST DENY OURSELVES, MUST BE WORTHY OF cHRIST, MUST BER OUR CROSS AND FOLLOW hIM, MUST BEE POOR IN SPIRIT, AND ALL THAT, ALTHOUGH SUCH REQRUIEMENTS CLEARLY SUGGEST WORKS THAT ARE NEEDED TO QUALIFY US FOR SALVATION.  aND NOBODY i'M AWARE OF INCLUDING jOHN mACaRTHUR MAKES AN INCSTINCTION TO HELP US OUT WITH THIS OBVIOUS APPARENTLY DISCREPANCY.


eXCEPT wATCHMAN nEE, OF ALL THOSE i LISTEN TO.  aND SOME OF WHAT HE SAYS SEEMS TO ME TO BE INDUBITABLY CORRECT 3WHILE SOME SEEMS QUESTIONABLE SO i HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIS TEACHING TOO.  hE EMHASIZES THE PURE GRACE WITHOUT WORKS REQURIEMENT FOR SALVATION AND GOES ON TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT THE PASSAGES THAT IMPLY SORKS ARE REFERRING TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF SPIRUTAL LIFE, WALKING WITH cHRIST AS hIS DEIXCIPTLE , WHICH APPARENTLY SOME GO ON TO PRACCTICE WHILRE MANY REMAIN CONTENT WITH MERE SALVATION.  sALVTION IS THE AVOIDALCE OF hELL, THE ACCEPTALNCE INTO THE nEW jERUSALEM, BUT FOLLOWING cHRIST, DENYING SELF, bEARING THE cROSS AND SO ON TAKE US INTO THE kINGDOM OF gOD SOMEHOW WHILE MERE SALVATION DOESN'T.  tHIS IS VERY HARD TO SORT OUT, ALTHOUGH AT LEAST i APPRECIATIOE HIS OBSERVATION THAT SOME DISTINCTION IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND THE IDEA THT ALL THOSE CONDITIONS ARE JUST PART OF BEING SAVED IS CLEARLY A CONTRADITION WITH THE PURE GOSPEL.  

i'M STILL TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF ALL THOSIS SO iREALLY DON'T HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, JUST WANT TO SNOTE THAT i THINK IT'S A REAL PROBLEM THAT ISN'T SUFFIDCIENTLY ADDRESSED BY EVEN THE BEST TEACHERS TODAY.

 
nEE RECOGNIZES THAT THERE ARE THREE PARTS TO THE HUMAN PERSONALITY, BODY , SOU AND SPIRIT, WHILE THE REFORMED TEACHERS SUCH AS jOHN mACaRTHUR AND MOST EVANGELICALS ONLY RECOGNIZE SOUL AND BODY AND SUBSUME SPIRIT UNDER SOUL.  tHERE ARE TWO PASSAGES THAT CLEARLY REFER TO THREE FACULTIES, ONE IN THESALONIANS AND THE OTHER IN hEBREWS.  THERE IS DOUBT, NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THERE ARE THESE THREE PARTS AND IT'S ALWAYS FRUSTRATED ME THAT SUCH GOOD PREACHERS AND AS mACaRTHUR DENY IT.  iT'S RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE AND THEY SOMEHOW MANAGE TO GLOSS IT OVER.  iT MAEMAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE TO THIS QUESTION OF THE SEEMING WORKS REQUIREMENTS THAT SHOW UP IN THE GOSPELSZ THAT i'M TALKING ABOUT ABOVE.  iF nEE IS RIGHT, MOST PREACHERS ARE PREACHING A SORT OF CARNAL VERSION OF THE gOSPEL.  i KNOW THAT'S A N OUTRAGEOUS THING TO SAY BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THE ONLY CONDCLUSION i CAN DRAW FROM THESE FACTS.



later:  tHIS IS ALSO RELATED TO ANOTHER FRUSTRATION OF MINE, WHICH i FOUND EXPRESSED BY a q tOZER IN HIS BOOK tHE pURSUIT OF gOD, WHICH IS THAT WE ARE TAUGHT OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE GOSPEL ITSELF AND TAUGHT THAT THIS IS THE SUM TOTAL OF cHRISTIAN TECHING, EXCEPT FOR SOME EXCURSIONS INTO THE TOPIC OF SANCITIFICATION WHICH IS RARE ENOUGH IN ITSELF.sOME OF US HAVE AHAD EXPRERIENCES THAT MAKE US WANT MORE THAN THIS, MORE OF THE SPIRITUAL LIFE, FOR EXPERIENCE OF THE GLORIES OF OUR FAITH, OF gOD hIMSELF, AND EWHENEVER WE SAY THIS WE HEAR BACK THAT THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO BE HAD, IT'S THE GOSPEL OF SALVATION AND THAT IS THAT.    

tOZER'S BOOK IS THEREFORE A GREAT RELIEF AND HELP BECAUSE IT ACKNOWLEDGES OUR DESIRE FOR MORE, AND GIVES US SOME KEYS TO PURSUINT IT, ,WHICH IS PURSUING THE EXPERIENCE OIF gOD hIMSELF.  HICH AFTER ALL IS WHAT SALVATION IS ANYWAY, THE KNOWLEDGE OF gOD AS jESUS PUT IT.  kJOWING GOD IS OBVIOUSLY NO QUICK STUDY BUT A LIFETIME PROJECT, OR REALLY A PROJECT FOR ALL OF ETERNITY.   sOME cHRISTIANS DON'T SEEM INTERETASED,.  i NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT.  fROM THE BEGINNING i HAD ENOUGH EXPERIENCE OF THE GRT PLAEASURES OF SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A BOTTOMLIESS PIT OF MORE MORE MORE TO BE HADN.  aND i'VE HUNGERED FOR TEACHING ON THE SUBJECT.  nEE IS ONE SOURCE, SO IS tOZDER.  THERE ARE A FEW OTHERS, THE OLD ONES FROM A CENTURY BACK OR SO FOR THE MOST PART, THE ONCE WHO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS TODAY SOMEWHOEW DON'T SATISFY, AT LEAST NOT WHAT i'M LOOKING FOR.  iT'S ALWAYS THE OLD GUYS WHO KNOW ABOUT IT.  TODAY'S TEPREACHINGS  SIPREACHERS SEEM LIGHT AND FRIVOLOUS AND NOT WORTH LISTENING TO.  mACaRTHUR IS ERIOUS ENOUGH AND A GOOD EXPOSIOR OF THE SCRIPTURE UP TO A POINT, BUT i THINK HE TOO IS MISSING THE REAL STUFF OF THE cHRISTIAN LIFE.

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Wednesday, June 5, 2024

Judgment Keeps on A Rollin.

 It has often struck me that Christians in general don

t think much in terms of God's judgments in this world, on the national scale or in our own lives.  The Old Testmanent was given for our instruction so we could know cuhch things but few seem to have learned it.  Why did so many miss the clear implication of nine eleven that God was bringing judgment against America?  What is this conceit about how God just eouldn't jsodo such a thing?  There it is in the book of the prophet Amos:  If there be evil in a city, will not the Lord have done it?  And somewhere toward the end of Isaiah EGoGod identifies Himself as bringing both good and evil.  Do they just not read the Old Testament?  


Perhaps it has something to do with a misreading of Jesus' teachings, how we aren't to judge the victims of disasters as guitylyty of some sin or other to deserve it and that sort of thing.  But we don't kneed to judge individuals in any of this to know that  God brings the calamities and they cause great sufferings to many people, whether guilty of any particular sins or not, and uffferings to the whole nation in the case of nine eleven... and Katrina and other weather disasters which seem to be increasing lately.  Seem to be, but hen you go back in history you often find that theuy hasd similarly ferocious weather patterns and we easily forget that.  But there is no such thing as a meanglinless disaster if you take the Old testament seriously.  God made the bricks to fall down and the sycamores to be cut down in a wave of punishemtn by Israel's enemies as reported In Isaiah nine ten, and since they didn't acknolwege His act but proudly set about to rebuild with better materials than bricks and plant better trees than sycamores He goes on to say His hand is still outstretched against them, His anger has not been satisfied.  The similarities with nine eleven in New York City are pretty uncanny if you follow Jonathan Cahn's study of them, so since we know the nation certainly did nothing toward repentance of our sincs we can know that God's hand is still outstreched against us too.  


I listened to audio books of the Little House on the Prairies series recently and wonder how people who were Christians, who read the Innle and presumably tried to live by it don't seem to have sought God to protect their crops from the horrific destruction that came against them year after year, from drought to birds to gophers to a plague of locusts two years in a row.  Not a word about prayer for protection or in repentance or anyting of the sort.   


Just ponder for a moment thw conditions we are living through in the country right now, and how they amount to a threat of disaster from amny angles that could hit us at any time.  Foreigners in the millions illegally whoy of whom hate us, universities taken over by forces of even l who are protesting illegally standard US policy in favor of Israel, protesting in favor of vicious murders, runaway spendin which has brought about an inflation that everyone is feeling, the poorest feeling it the hardest.  But all our remedies are merely human.  Elect trump  Well, if God was the one promoting it Trump would be a very effective instrument for righting many of the wrongs we are suffering from, but why should we expect God to be in favor of any such aid when we keep ignoring Him, don't seek hHim for guidance or acknowledge our sins to Himj and ask forgivenemenss or any of the things Christians are supposted to do?


Well, this post is really just a restatement in other words of what I've written below but it can't hurt to restate it.  God MAY let u have trump again, but propably not with a lot of the same harassments his Presidency had to go through the first time.  Good grief Christians, And I mean born again Protestant Christians because those are the only Christians who belong to God and have standing with Him.  We're to be salt and light in this world and rependiting for our nation even though we may not have shared in its sins is our job.  Dniel the Prophet did that for Israel though he was innocent of all the sins he was confessing.  We share in the sins because we are in covenant as a nation wilth all those who have brought about the evil s we are suffering from.


Any hope?  Not a lot.  But I'd like to be wrong.  On the other hand I'm sure God brought all this to mind for me to write about so since few would pay much attention to anything I write I don't have much hope at leat for my constricbution to the topid.  And I haven't herd much from anyuone else.  Protbably John MacArthur has said a few things about it.  I haven't listened to him for a while.  guess I should do thaty.

Later:  Yes, MacArthur has at last one talk on jidmgnet, Will God Abandon America?  and his answer is yes, Aogd has already abandoned us.This is 

This is probably an old teaching but it's a god presentation of the kinds of sin the nation is most defined by these days, sexual sins of every kind.  

Another teaching by AmacArthur on this subject is A Naion Under God?  this one is particularly good.

Sunday, June 2, 2024

It's Bigger Than the Election Of Course

I haven't posted for some time, largely due to health issues and a hospitalization, and I think I should explain again why my posts are so badly written, which is that I have macular degenration and it is in afact a miracle that I can write anything at all, but I can't read what I have written.  I'm aware of the mistakes even as I type them but I can't see to correct them and only hope they won't interfere too much with the meaning for aht I'm saying.  Later I can listen to what I've written using the Read Aloud function if I can find it with my magnifier on the menus, and that makes it quite clear that I've written a huge numbers of typeos and some of them do garble what I'm trying to say to some extent.  All I can do is say I'm sorry for that  and wish it weren't so but the Lord doesn't seem to be interested in healing me but in letting things stand as they are.  

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 Everything we are suffering right now is god's judgment against America.  it's all well and good to hear the conservative talk shows identifying the corruptions that have brought it all about, the threat from crimanls coming over the border not to mention the sheer numbers of people that the nation can't support and are illegal anyway, adn the infleation is killoing us, that the Decocrats or at least biden blames on trump instead of on himself who is the one resposnsible for it, and his disastrous foeieign politices that are arming our enemies against us and turning us against Israel, which in igteself exposes us to God's swrath.  Israel is also in violation of God but they are nevedrtheless His people and He has promised to curse those who scurse them as biden is now doing in his politices conscerning the war against Hamas and his tolerance of the protests on behalf of Hamas in this country, of all the outrageous abominations imaginable.  good grief.  But gain, it couldn't be happening if we were in God's favor and obviously we are not.  Our since go back decades and there has been absolution no repentence even mentioned or enacted even by a church that I know of let alone the nation itself.  We used to have Presidents who called for a day of fasting and prayer toward God from time to tome.  Long since we've seen no such thing.  We just go on racking up sins against Him and storing up wrathh against us.


Too many are now on the side of evil for there to be much hope of turning us back.  On the other hand Gideon went to war with a tiny little army at God's command, so if we could muster that pure army of righteous to repent for our sins perhaps we could make some headway against this gallping judgmetn from God.  Sure I'm all for working to get Trum p back into the Presidency, there is nothing else we can do on the human plance at the moment if we are not going to prey and pray and repent, but it can't ammount to much in the end unless we do repent and seek to throw out all the sins we've been committing for the last few decades.  And mayhbe even back to the beginning of the nation for that matter.  I think of Washington's telling the barbary pirates that we aren't a Christian nation.  let's start there then becayuse we ere then and for many years following a Christian nation and that is why God blessed us and p[rospered us.  he isn't going to bless any nation that mixes His truth with other religions which all derive eight her from the uman spirit or from Satah and not from God Himself.  All those have to be given up.  The Pope's visit to Congress a few years ago was a horrendous abomination in the sight of god.  The Pope is the Antichrist as the Protestant Repoformers showed.  nad Giving Islam any say at all in our political life is another abomination.  they are a very effective instrument of God's wrath against us, they are certainly no friend to American.  


Toqueville say the religious nature of america when he visitied and it was a Christian exspression he saw amonth the people, not some generic spirituality.  It is that Christian identity we need to eget back, and that seems impossible right now to tsay the least.  but maybe if we had a gidenon's army of true orthosdox belivers praying and repenting on tbehalf of the nation we could begin the process of turning us back to god.  


Oh but no ecumenical prayers lease.  None of that mixed group thta prays together at prayer breakfsts in Washington.  That is an babomination in itself.  No Catholics, sorry, they do not share the true orthodox Christianity, sorry, no Muslimes, , no native Americans, none obut ture biblical Protestant believers who are born again by the Holy Spirit have the power to rprevail with God on behalf of the antion, 


;If there is evil in a city will not the Lord have done it, the prophet amos says I thinkin chpter three, and My people are destroed for lack of knowledge God says through thrt eprophet Hosea in chapter four I think, meaning lack of knowledg eof Him and His law.  That is what we have lost and that is why there is ivil in our cities and our people are destroyed for lack of knoslwldge of God.


It would be great if we could have a great Awakening such as transformed the nation right before the reevolutionary War and stamped the Christian charatcter on us for a long time to come.  but we are no longer the consistentlyu christian peop[le we ere then and God doeasn't seem at all inclined to ansswer all the prayers for revival that have gone up to Him forf decades now, and that must be because we are inc luding false relgions in our prayers, or that is the conclumsion I cam to some time ago anyway.  I hope god is guiding me in all this and I think He is.