tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post6390848770982768270..comments2024-02-10T00:29:04.297-08:00Comments on Faith's Window: More on why Christians must reject Glenn BeckFaith http://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-15317984450736752842010-08-29T14:49:28.620-07:002010-08-29T14:49:28.620-07:00I'm sorry. I don't mean to be disrespectf...I'm sorry. I don't mean to be disrespectful. By all means, Christians should speak out against perceived heresy's. But please, there would appear to be far more aggregious heresy's coming out of the mouths of "statist" Leftists than from the lips of Glen Beck. This conversation is far too ironic for me.<br /><br />Good day, Faith.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-82315149220748182192010-08-29T14:25:30.956-07:002010-08-29T14:25:30.956-07:00btw - Do you object to the "free exercise&quo...btw - Do you object to the "free exercise" clause of the 1st amendment?Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-30406815515981790892010-08-29T14:24:09.968-07:002010-08-29T14:24:09.968-07:00Perhaps Beck needs to more overtly alert his audie...Perhaps Beck needs to more overtly alert his audience as tot he source of his specific religious beliefs... but short of tattooing a "Non-Christian warning label" across his forehead, I don't know what else you could "reasonably" expect him to do. You advocate his self-limitting his speech to only those subjects which don't run counter to your specific "brand" of Christianity, but sensitivity to all religious brands would render him a mute.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-2745768967560446212010-08-29T14:13:31.176-07:002010-08-29T14:13:31.176-07:00Stand with Beck as an American. Or are "Chri...Stand with Beck as an American. Or are "Christians" the only Americans you are willing to stand with?Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-53111635082628840982010-08-29T14:11:28.098-07:002010-08-29T14:11:28.098-07:00Beck makes no claim to being a "religious lea...Beck makes no claim to being a "religious leader".<br /><br />Yes, his event WAS billed as a call to arms for Americans, Christians in particular, to return to their respective religious faith. I fail to see how you can have a problem with that. He's not trying to form a new religion. He's NOT trying to plant a new church.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-76423002493115401242010-08-29T13:35:41.247-07:002010-08-29T13:35:41.247-07:00The problem with Beck is that he draws Christian s...The problem with Beck is that he draws Christian support for his political message, but then his rally was largely religious and tried to blur the distinctions.<br /><br />There's no such thing as "inter-faith" anything, but there is such a thing as genuine respectful tolerance of differences and that's the basis for peace in a diverse society. <br /><br />As long as Beck's religion wasn't defining his politics I had no problem with him. Once he defends his Mormon beliefs a Christian MUST answer him, however, as the blogger I quoted did. But beyond that, there would not be a problem with his Mormonism either IF he wasn't seducing Christians into treating it as just another version of Christianity. His rally was a RELIGIOUS rally. That puts us on a collision course with him. <br /><br />Christians who stand with him THERE are in fact appearing to endorse Mormonism, and what I quoted from the Bible is clear that we cannot in any way treat him as a fellow Christian without incurring blame.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-21753348573251628482010-08-29T13:09:16.388-07:002010-08-29T13:09:16.388-07:00Nobody is asking you to "stand with" Bec...Nobody is asking you to "stand with" Beck. By all means, "stand apart" from him. But does fact that Beck does not accept every tenet of your faith compel you to stand AGAINST him (which is what you are appearing to do)? Is there no middle ground upon which mankind can accept inter-faith differences and make peace amongst us? Just wondrin'.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-9124179389472744252010-08-29T12:37:15.138-07:002010-08-29T12:37:15.138-07:00Thanks very much for your thoughts, Speedy G. The...Thanks very much for your thoughts, Speedy G. The more I've thought about all this, especially with the personal attacks against me for what I've been saying on it elsewhere, the more I've been coming to the conclusion that the rally yesterday was really a very big piece of deception and very very dangerous for Christians. <br /><br />And I started out yesterday morning much like the guy I guote in this post, not concerned much about Beck's Mormonism because it doesn't seem to affect anything he says, and simply enjoying his very articulate and passionate conservatism and patriotism. There is no doubt about it, Beck is a very good guy and very good on issues that matter a great deal to conservatives and patriots -- and to Christians as well -- yes, the small government message, yes, a return to the founders. Man, I love that stuff, how I wish I didn't have to reject a guy who does such a good job on all that. <br /><br />But precisely therein lies the snare. It took me a while to see it. It took the blogger I quote here facing a direct message from Beck affirming his acceptance of the Book of Mormon.<br /><br />It hadn't occurred to me that Beck is in the running for Antichrist, but perhaps I have to recognize that what I'm saying does make him one of the little antichrists we see so much of these days. <br /><br />The problem with merely educating ourselves about the differences is that the REAL problem is that we cannot STAND WITH a heretic, we cannot appear to be supporting his beliefs. This is simply turning out to be a dividing line between the sheep and the goats it seems to me, a really tough test I believe the Lord is putting us through, and we have to be radical in our response, we have to be Bible believers, no compromises.<br /><br />I'm sorry you have given up on Christ, Speedy, but I appreciate your contribution on this topic very much.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-52171024252486179812010-08-29T09:41:01.881-07:002010-08-29T09:41:01.881-07:00btw - I should say up front that although I am a D...btw - I should say up front that although I am a Deist and no longer a Christian, I was raised in and am very fluent in the Evangelical Lutheran variant of Christianity.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8290715222068932619.post-63662981385697476702010-08-29T09:35:33.913-07:002010-08-29T09:35:33.913-07:00A thoughtful and well considered piece.
I too adm...A thoughtful and well considered piece.<br /><br />I too admire Beck for his willingness to take the heat for educating the population on other semi-Christian religions, like liberation theology, and for taking on certain popular secular historical issues.<br /><br />I do, however, take issue with your advice to reject the man "whole cloth" simply because he's a Mormon. I think the "better" alternative is to educate yourself in the differences between Morman beliefs and your own, as you advise, and leave it at that.<br /><br />I don't think that Beck is positioning himself to be the anti-Christ. Small government and a return to "the founders" best describes the ideology he's pushing, and THAT would represent an environment ill conducive to a "satanist" pogrom.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.com